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alex ph
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:47 am Post subject: Yashica Auto Yashikor 2.8/35 performs well in gloomy light |
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alex ph wrote:
A nice contrasty performer, sharp enough even if not the sharpest. What is more important, it gives a certain live feeling to the rendered picture. On Sony Nex mainly at f4 in a gloomy day light, constrast is boosted for this reason.
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3704 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Nice! Can't say i like the bokeh though. I guess better performance in gloomy light would be valid for all early lenses. Especially those with exposed large front glass surface.
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alex ph
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
It looks pretty much the same. I did not know it was made by Sigma, I read somewhere about Tokina origin.
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I guess better performance in gloomy light would be valid for all early lenses. |
That's an interesting point. I think that some older lenses show less contrast in similar light conditions. This is to check.
The bokeh is in some way not static, it leaves a breathing feeling. I am a bit divided too, but cannot say I dislike it. |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 387
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
Definitely not a lens for a modern 'landscape', I see it more as an 'art' lens, very ' analogue'.
Give it a try for a portrait/headshot with a busy background like those trees, pic 1 and 2.
I would also try it in B/W mode, with low and high contrast too - with a hoodie.
anyway, .. it has more soul than latest ML 35 2.8
but is it a yashica or a tokina? I suspect that lens came from early '70 era (electro's series). Was Tokina already active back then? |
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alex ph
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Agreed, it's a pretty moody lens with some "tasty" features.
I have some BW images, made with a simple desaturation and some others passed through NIK.
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Simple desaturation with following exposure and contrast tweaks.
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Need to dig deeper as for the original maker. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2965 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Interesting. I don't dislike the bokeh but you would have to be careful in its use it as it could distract from some types of images. Reminds me of some helios lenses. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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D1N0
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Super contrasty and quite a big lens for a 35mm/2.8. Bokeh on 35mm is often quite busy. Best 35 for bokeh I have is the Auto-Takumar 35/2.3
. This may beat the SMC Pentax 35mm 1:3.5 for contrast. _________________ pentaxian |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Reminds me of some helios lenses. |
True! It could be closer to some moderately younger Helioses, such as 44M, even though no swirl detected.
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Best 35 for bokeh I have is the Auto-Takumar 35/2.3. |
Is it a Flektogon based design? I did not find your post presenting the lens. There are some samples in Pentax forums, the bokeh is very special, kind of explicit painterly. Mist be pleasing to some (I like it) and disturbing for others. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2530
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
D1N0 wrote: |
Best 35 for bokeh I have is the Auto-Takumar 35/2.3. |
Is it a Flektogon based design? I did not find your post presenting the lens. There are some samples in Pentax forums, the bokeh is very special, kind of explicit painterly. Mist be pleasing to some (I like it) and disturbing for others. |
It is a Angénieux retrofocus design. Here's my album with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157715097997236 _________________ pentaxian |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
You present it well! Thank you fr the link. |
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alex ph
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
The only explicit statement about the Yashikors maker I found by the moment is the following from Wikipedia: "While the Yashimaflex used lenses labeled Tri-Lausar, successive models used Yashikor and Yashinon lenses. All of these lenses were manufactured for Yashica by the Tomioka Optical Works, beginning a relationship that lasted for many years."
Although this concerns medium format cameras and the 1950s. |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 387
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
that info is for trl cameras Alex Ph, both in *-non and *-kor lenses.
Yashica-D is one famous example of this Japaneeeezze peekaboo ...
i suspect that yashica kept later 'yashikor' name to sell the same product for less money and to clean old stock - thats all.
yashikor (m42) was only around early '70 after switch from penta to m42 mount. 28, 35 and 50mm - all 2.8.
a.f.a.i.k.
anyway, nice 'vintagy / analogue' feel lenses, very good with BW, boudoir, arty stuff, street .. and fake porta feel when in colour.
edit: to correct myself, 50 2.8 came from RF, via penta to m42. could be in 2 versions, xenotar and tessar. again, afaik.
Btw Alex, check Zone System, it's for BW in Post Process too |
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alex ph
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:06 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
That's an interesting idea, that the cheaper lenses were the same as the more expensive ones! If it is true, I love such inverse marketing and wished there was more of it.
I looked for the info on Zone System. Is it a paid Photoshop add-on you meant? It looks promissing. Even though I am using the last free version of NIK (still available for download in a couple of places in the web) and enjoy the results.
Once again taken with Yashikor, event though NIK overdoes pretty much the lens' character. |
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alex_d
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
' zone system photography guide .. ' something like that -> search
in short (there are ppl who explain that much better than me writing it..) - it's about preventing blowout black and white, or creating a chess board look-a-like picture.
All to allow many shades of gray.
however, high contrast ('opposite' of Zone System theory) is 'arty' and used for (mostly) abstract stuff. |
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alex ph
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you, I'll look for it. |
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simple.joy
Joined: 30 May 2022 Posts: 611
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Yashica Auto Yashikor 2.8/35 performs well in gloomy lig |
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simple.joy wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
A nice contrasty performer, sharp enough even if not the sharpest. What is more important, it gives a certain live feeling to the rendered picture. On Sony Nex mainly at f4 in a gloomy day light, constrast is boosted for this reason.
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The rendering may not be everybody's taste but in this shot it works perfectly... Excellent focus and the result looks very smooth and interesting! _________________ ---
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alex ph
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:40 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you for your appreciation! I value your gentle manner to touch both technical aspects and the esthetics, without dropping heavy judgements. You contribute to the high class of dialogue this forum is known for. |
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