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Nordentro
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:54 am Post subject: Tamron made Soligors |
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Nordentro wrote:
Hi all
I have collected a few Tamron made Soligors during the years. I have five. Do you know if there is more Tamron made models and do you have experience with others?!?
Here is what I got:
250mm f/4.5
135mm f/3.5
135mm f/2.8
135mm f/4.5 (225mm f/7.7)
35mm f/2.8
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 749 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
350 f/5.6 _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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pavko
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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pavko wrote:
300 f6.9 - light, sharp, almost non-existent CA, T2 mount |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Tamron made Soligors |
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guardian wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Hi all
I have collected a few Tamron made Soligors during the years. I have five. Do you know if there is more Tamron made models and do you have experience with others?!?
Here is what I got:
250mm f/4.5
135mm f/3.5
135mm f/2.8
135mm f/4.5 (225mm f/7.7)
35mm f/2.8
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Howdy back atcha
That's a really nice collection of Soligors made by Tamron. Could you answer a question, please:
We can see in your photo of the first four lenses the "T" prefix in the serial number of each lens.
Cannot quite see the entire serial number of the fifth lens, the Twin. Does that lens's serial number also have a "T" prefix? |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes, the Twin Soligor has T prefix too
I would look for the tele lenses, thx guys. Any other lenses with "T" prefix around? _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Almost all the early Tamron presets have been seen as Soligors.
A few havent that I know of.
200/2.8
58/1.2 _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:08 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Yes, the Twin Soligor has T prefix too
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Understood. Thanks
So the "T" prefix on an old MF Soligor is a pretty consistent "tell" regarding Tamron manufacture.
Very interesting. Good to know! |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes, T prefix means Tamron
I realized I had another T prefix Soligor in LTM
But this time in the end of the Serial. This lens doesn`t look tamron to me
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Interesting.
OK, but that's a "T" suffix, not a prefix. It really does not violate the "Soligor "T" prefix means Tamron" precedent established by the first five lenses you have shown us. That sixth lens is a very nice looking lens, even though I've no idea what company manufactured it. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Well you are right, English is not my native language so things may come out strange sometimes
I sometimes writes "Angel" when I mean "Angle" and lots of other mess.
I know Komura made som similar looking lenses, but this lens is a RF lens and is somewhat smaller than the Komura lenses for m42 I have seen. But! I also have another RF Soligor 35mm f/3.5 with "K" suffix (I did it right this time)
I am pretty sure this one is made by Komura...
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I reckon that 3.5/35 is a Kowa.
I've never seen a rf Soligor, are they rare? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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guardian
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Well you are right, English is not my native language so things may come out strange sometimes
I sometimes writes "Angel" when I mean "Angle" and lots of other mess.
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Naaa, it's all good. You surely had me fooled. You write English a lot better than many Americans for whom it is ostensibly a first language!!
I only raised and highlighted the prefix/suffix thing because I think this is a valuable and helpful thread for lens students who, like myself, are trying to learn and trying to get a handle on these lenses.
Efforts to identify manufacturers of these old lenses are too often akin to deciphering the Rosetta stone in that attention must be paid to fine details. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I reckon that 3.5/35 is a Kowa.
I've never seen a rf Soligor, are they rare? |
It`s just very similar when I compare to my Komura 35mm...
I only know about three RF m39 Soligors and they are pretty rare yes.
It is the 35mm f/3.5, 105mm f/4 and the 135mm f/3.5
Here is the Komura:
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
guardian wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
Well you are right, English is not my native language so things may come out strange sometimes
I sometimes writes "Angel" when I mean "Angle" and lots of other mess.
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Naaa, it's all good. You surely had me fooled. You write English a lot better than many Americans for whom it is ostensibly a first language!!
I only raised and highlighted the prefix/suffix thing because I think this is a valuable and helpful thread for lens students who, like myself, are trying to learn and trying to get a handle on these lenses.
Efforts to identify manufacturers of these old lenses are too often akin to deciphering the Rosetta stone in that attention must be paid to fine details. |
Well, I try my best and I fully agree on the details! _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
pavko wrote: |
300 f6.9 - light, sharp, almost non-existent CA, T2 mount |
Yes
Here it is
#1
I have 2 more of those old Tamrons ( 5.9/200 and 7.5/400) but they are named Haminex-Tamron and not Soligor. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Nice, this has a T prefix as well? _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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std
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Nice, this has a T prefix as well? |
Yes it does
_________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The 300/6.9 and 200/5.9 are quite hard to find! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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pavko
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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pavko wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
The 300/6.9 and 200/5.9 are quite hard to find! |
During my research I've seen only 3 distinct serial numbers of 300/6.9 (here on mflenses - one in posession of std, rockycameras and Polish auction portal which is now mine). Not big population I must say (and sample is so small that it is hard to estimate production volume). |
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Minolfan
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
Almost all the early Tamron presets have been seen as Soligors.
A few havent that I know of.
200/2.8
58/1.2 |
Anyone ever seen that Tamron/Soligor 58mm 1.2 in reality? |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:43 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The 58/1.2 has never been seen as a Sologor AFAIK.
That's why I said it was one of the only two Tamron presets never sold as a Soligor.
The other is the 200/2.8, also a rare lens.
Every other Tamron preset I think can be found in the Soligor brand, though they may be very uncommon. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:43 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The 58/1.2 has never been seen as a Sologor AFAIK.
That's why I said it was one of the only two Tamron presets never sold as a Soligor.
The other is the 200/2.8, also a rare lens.
Every other Tamron preset I think can be found in the Soligor brand, though they may be very uncommon. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
casualcollector wrote: |
350 f/5.6 |
Any picture of this lens? _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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casualcollector
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:20 am Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I will try to take one for you. Similar in appearance to your 250/4.5. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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casualcollector
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
casualcollector wrote: |
350 f/5.6 |
Any picture of this lens? |
_________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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