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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:23 pm Post subject: Lenses that are magical at some other aperture than WO |
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Pontus wrote:
A continuation on the subject "Why is performance wide open important?" where I question the logic of only using fast lenses wide open when these lenses usually are meant to be used slightly stopped down.
Please list lenses that are spectacular (better than other lenses) at what they do at a certain aperture other than wide open. I can start with two very special lenses:
- Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 which is fabulous at f2. Still shallow DOF but sharp, contrasty and bokeh to die for. Shoot this lens wide open and you get a much busier bokeh, less sharp images and less contrast. Also, the ultra short DOF is hard to handle. This lens can be used to great effect wide open as well but the special magic is at f2
- Contax Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70/3.4 which is good at all apertures and focal lengths but the magic is at f5.6 at the wider end. 3D, POP, colours you name it.
I would welcome more suggestions on this subject as I haven't seen such a list before. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Jupiter-12 - soft and glowy wide open but sharp, 3d pop, excellent all round when closed 1 stop. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4 at f2.0 is my favorite and CZ Opton Sonnar 50mm f1.5 at f2.0 _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1372 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:42 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Jupiter-9 at f5.6 or f8,
Cheers,
Renato _________________ RSalles BLog: Made in The Wet
http://madeinthewet.blogspot.com.br/ |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Thanks guys, keep them coming
And for those who don't know:
Jupiter-9 is a 85mm f2 lens and Jupiter 12 is a 35mm 2.8 lens. Both Russian lenses, copies of Carl Zeiss Jena designs. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:46 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
OM zuiko 55/1.2, at f2.0, not mc, but delivers contrast, sharpness, 3d-pop, better than most lenses.
Planar 85/1.4 is also best at f2.0, but I don't have mm, and mine gives ninja star bokeh a little bit.
Planar 100/2 is also best at f2.8, buttery bokeh.
Most lenses give the best compromise between sharpness, contrast, and pop at 0,5 - 1 stop down. |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
I'd like to add Contax S-Planar Macro 60/2.8 which is a lens that seems to be optimized for sharpness wide open at 1:1 macro, something that is quite unusual. This is not in line with the topic but it is an interesting exception as most macro lenses are meant to be used stopped down several steps. While off topic I'd like to add a couple of more lenses that can be used for (1:2) macro with short DOF and those are Olympus OM Zuiko 50/2 Macro and Olympus OM Zuiko 90/2 Macro. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:04 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Minolta 50/3.5 Macro 1:2
I think it needs f5.6 at least.
Not sure this counts since it's basically a defect WO. Don't know if it's the fabled field curvature but landscape isn't nice WO. |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
buerokratiehasser wrote: |
Minolta 50/3.5 Macro 1:2
I think it needs f5.6 at least.
Not sure this counts since it's basically a defect WO. Don't know if it's the fabled field curvature but landscape isn't nice WO. |
Thanks, but as discussed earlier most lenses benefit from stopping down. Are you saying that the Minolta 50/3.5 Macro 1:2 is better (or offers something unique) than other 50mm lenses at f5.6? The prurpose of this thread is to map interesting combinations of lens/aperture. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:48 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
It's supposed to be one of the sharpest lenses ever (stopped down).
Of course, at f8 most lenses are somewhat agreeable.
Minolta colors going for it, too.
But well, you have a point there, Sigma UC 50/2.8 beats it, useful wider open, does 1:1, f5.6/8 resolution insane too, colors a bit cooler though. |
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:03 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
Of course the 3angled blades of Distagon 1,4/35 & Planar 1,4/85 for Rolleiflex SL 35 (and the leeeeeeeeeeeeegendary Contaflex version, who in the world owns one?) make a unique bokeh!
scroll down to have a look at that krazzy ligths:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Zeiss_Planar_85mm_1,4/00_pag.htm
_________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
Sony alpha 7r & adapters for all lenses above
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Yes, obviously you would have to stop down to get those triangular highlights.
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:09 am Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
I think the Jupiter-3 50/1.5 and Canon 50/1.5 LTM look nicest at f2 |
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