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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:57 pm Post subject: Manual focus SLR with biggest and brightest viewfinder |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
Many of you have or has many MF 135film SLR's. I would like to ask you general question: which film SLR camera have the biggest and brightest SLR?
I have personally:
Praktica PLC3: small dark viewfinder
Pentax Spotmatic: brighter, but not that much bigger
Minolta X700: really big and bright viewfinder.
Is there any better option than X700? Maybe Nikon FM2? Maybe Canon A1? Maybe Olympus OM? Please answer honestly and independently of lens mount, or adaptability of other systems (M42, adaptall etc). Answer as to person, which is not grounded in some system because of bunch of lenses. Thank you. _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have A1 and OM. I can compare them to a Spotmatic _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Pentax 6X7!
If this is only for 135, though, the New F-1 and AE-1P are both good contenders. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
With now doubt these prof' cams with interchangeable sport finders like Nikon F ...., Canon F1, Minolta XM, Pentax LX offer biggest view, Leicaflex SL2 one of the most brightest views. _________________ T*homas
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Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Canon AV-1 has a bigger and brighter viewfinder compared to my other SLR cameras (Pentax, Konica, Chinon, Olympus, Exakta, Praktica), I don't have any Nikon cameras _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Voigtlander Bessaflex TM _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Fuji ST-801 has brightest M42 finder what you can find on affordable price. Many others good choice with adapter, like Konica FC-1, Yashica FX-3 etc all inexpensive and nice. _________________ -------------------------------
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TAo2
Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 319 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:00 am Post subject: |
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TAo2 wrote:
Agree with Attila (above). Ah have the ST 901. A very bright viewfinder, beautifully built - and quiet...
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5038 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:17 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I have an AE-1 viewfinder glass in my Kodak. So that's why it is so bright. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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dnf_spedition
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 64 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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dnf_spedition wrote:
Fujica ST801 +1 |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Within Pentax, the MX has the largest.brightest finder. _________________ -Jussi
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pentaxpete
Joined: 02 Dec 2011 Posts: 651 Location: BRENTWOOD England
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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pentaxpete wrote:
Disagree with Nesster above -- Pentax ME Super beats the MX -- I have both _________________ Long Live REAL PHOTOGRAPHY ! |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
pentaxpete wrote: |
Disagree with Nesster above -- Pentax ME Super beats the MX -- I have both |
Ah there ya go, my ME Super isn't working, waiting for a CLA _________________ -Jussi
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
Expire: 2014-05-30
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Another vote for the fujica st-801, but actually all fujicas I tried, even lower-end models (like the az-1, or the st-701), have very good and bright vf. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:48 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Speaking from experience of selling these things from the 1960s to the early 1990s, the Olympus OM1 family had what appeared to be the 'largest' viewfinder. Other, later, cameras came close, but I don't think anything else ever exceeded it. It was also one of the brightest, partially because the bottom face of the prism was ground to act as a collecting lens. The actual screen used affected brightness - but even the standard screen gave a wonderfully bright view. There were also 'clear' screens for use in microscopy that were even brighter but of little use for general photography.
The original Leicaflex also used a shaped prism as a condenser lens in conjunction with a virtually clear screen and was without doubt the brightest of the film SLRs. But the finder image wasn't as big as the later OM1 and what you gained in brilliance you lost in positive focusing because of the fineness of the microprisms. It was one of photography's 'masterpieces of misplaced ingenuity' - precise focusing was very hard indeed with anything less than a 90mm lens. Later Leicaflexes used different screens which weren't as bright but far easier to work with. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
The Exakta has a very large viewfinder. In fact it has higher magnification than the OM-1's famously big viewfinder. Unfortunately "bright screens" are hard to find for Exaktas these days, and the more common screens are pretty dim. The original thick WLF gives an even larger image than the prism.
The Miranda SLRs used the same magnification as the OM-1 giving nearly 1:1 viewing when focused at about 5' to 10'. They are also decently bright, especially on the Miranda G which used an over sized mirror. |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1655 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
surely we are all measuring bees dicks now? |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
tromboads wrote: |
surely we are all measuring bees dicks now? |
Maybe we should have an exercise to compare the 'endowment' of the old 35mm bees with those of today's DSLRs _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
tromboads wrote: |
surely we are all measuring bees dicks now? |
I must've missed out on that party. Nobody invited me. |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Pentax MX and 2nd Pentax ME Super. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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zanxion72
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 145 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:01 am Post subject: |
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zanxion72 wrote:
Canon F-1 old with the L(asermate) screen. Nothing beats that. _________________ http://photographiagr.wordpress.com/
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gillesF
Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 32 Location: Roussillon - france
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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gillesF wrote:
minolta X500/700 , contax rtsII |
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moltogordo
Joined: 16 Mar 2014 Posts: 46 Location: Prince George, British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:36 am Post subject: |
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moltogordo wrote:
It often depends on what screen you insert, but of my 25 or so SLRs with their f1.4 lenses mounted, the brightest I have are the Pentax MX, the Nikon F3, and the OM1, OM4 and Nikon FM2 not far behind.
I can't vouch for the Fujicas and the ME Super, because I don't have them. I did at one time, but too long ago to remember in fair comparison.
Best bang for the buck? Pentax MX, as always. I still have no trouble focussing it with manual lenses, and I'm 63. _________________ If you prefer "I think, therefore I am" to "non sum qualis eram", you are putting Descartes before Horace. |
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NikonAIS
Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 227 Location: Pawleys Island, SC, US
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:17 am Post subject: |
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NikonAIS wrote:
Not sure about the largest, but the finder on my F4S is the brightest amongst my 35mm SLR's with a standard screen. When I put my H3 microprism screen in my F2, it is very bright. My D700 is about the same as the F4S _________________ Nikon FTn, F2A, F3HP, F4E, F5, Nikkormat FT2, Nikon FE-2, Nikonos V, D850, D500 and D750. 8mm f/2.8 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 Fisheye AIS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 Nikkor H non-AI, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 and 35mm f/2.8 UW-Nikkors, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor-S, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro w/ PK-13, 80-200mm f/4 AIS, 85mm f/1.4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 10.5 cm f/2.5 non-AI, 105mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 135mm f/2 AIS, 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS and PN-11, 200mm f/2 ED-IF AIS, 300mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS, TC14B and TC300.
Hasselblad 500CM with PM-90 eye level finder and assorted A12 and A16 backs, Carl Zeiss C and CF T* 40mm f/4. 60mm f/3.5. 80mm f/2.8, 150mm f/4 and 250mm f/5.6
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