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Kabizm
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 Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject: Meyer Optik Orestegor 200/4 hazy image |
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Kabizm wrote:
Hi
I recently bought a Meyer Optik Orestoger 200/4.
I intend to use it on my Nikon d600 with M42 adaptor , the lens appears to be in good condition with no visible scratches to the glass. All-round good condition.
The problem I have is the images shot at F/4 seem really hazy/ cloudy. I also seem to have problems getting a clear image. I’ve tried using an m42 adaptor with the infinity glass and without but no luck.
Here are a some handheld test shots I took quickly. They’re not great as one can see, I couldn't get tack sharp focus. The day was overcast. Maybe I need to dial in extra EV??
The Meyer seems to have a a very good score on the pentax forum reviews for lenses, so I was expecting awesome results but I am kind of disappointed, I can’t seem to create anything to good. Any tips?? Is my copy a lemon?
I have contacted the buyer and he recommended I come here to ask advice and said maybe use a lens hood to get more contrasty results. which lens hood and thread size do you recommend?
Today I will try to get some better pics.
Your thoughts are gratefully welcomed
Edit: when stopped down the view through the the camera's view finder becomes clearer, but the images are far from sharp.
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bernhardas
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
No problem with hood here.
Looks quite obvious, that a lens element is misaligned or reversed.
Did you tried to shake the lens? no sound?
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
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There are many far better specialists than me in this forum.
In my first look I would say there is something seriously wrong with the lens you have. My sample gives very sharp pictures.
A lens element seems to be reversed or in the wrong place.
You will need to bring it to a proper repairman and get it checked and repaired. |
Yes. something didn't seem right when i looked at the first shot i took. 
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
| BurstMox wrote: |
No problem with hood here.
Looks quite obvious, that a lens element is misaligned or reversed.
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This was the suspicions i had. I haven't physically checked for internal movement. I will do this later when i am at home!
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Yes, there is a problem with the lens for sure.
This is the kind of result you should be getting.
OH
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Meyer Optik Orestoger 200/4 hazy image |
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Pancolart wrote:
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She is right! 
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
Yes something is definitely not right. I will contact the seller to see what they have to say regarding a refund. It seems to be faulty. I inspected the lens yesterday and it appears the screws have been tampered with, so we can assume it has been dismantled and maybe put back together incorrectly!
Does anyone have a lens construction diagram for this lens please? I would like to keep this lens and maybe get it fixed.
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
Yes, there is a problem with the lens for sure.
This is the kind of result you should be getting.
OH
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These are the images i was expecting to get. But unfortunately not the case in my version.
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Meyer Optik Orestoger 200/4 hazy image |
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Kabizm wrote:
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She is right! |
I concur... 
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Kabizm
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
*Update
Contacted seller and he's refunded me so it's going back!
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Nordentro wrote:
You did the right thing 
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aoleg
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
A common reason for a soft picture like this would be the rear lens element (or rear lens group) mounted backwards. Sometimes they look quite symmetric to bare eye, so making this mistake is easy for an amateur repairer.
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cyrano wrote:
Write Thambar on the side and use as a soft focus portrait lens or sell for $$$$$$$$$ 
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