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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject: Mod your P6 Sonnar 180/2.8 for Pentax 67 |
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rawhead wrote:
So after having read this post on Pentaxforums:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/104940-180-300-czj-lenses-mounted-pentax-67-a.html
I've been wanting to convert a Pentacon 6 / CZJ Sonnar 180mm f2.8 to use on my Pentax 67II. With the help of Bob Crowley from the New55 project, the dream came true:
fr_35_size880 by rawhead_tech, on Flickr
The mod is relatively easy IF you have access to a metal lathe. It only involved removing some parts from the rear of the Sonnar (won't be used again), using the male end of a P67 extension tube, and removing some metal from the extension tube mount, and a couple places on the lens.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68874194@N06/sets/72157629565222860/with/6980685754/
This set should explain the basic concept of the modification.
YES, it will give you infinity focus. YES, the image circle is more than enough! Here's a test shot:
Shoot the Shoot. by Dr. RawheaD, on Flickr _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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billdababilonia
Joined: 07 May 2015 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:58 am Post subject: |
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billdababilonia wrote:
hi
saw its adaptation, would make a too, my doubt is which of the extension tubes is correct, Pentax has several of these tubes.
can you help me? |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:01 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
billdababilonia wrote: |
hi
saw its adaptation, would make a too, my doubt is which of the extension tubes is correct, Pentax has several of these tubes.
can you help me? |
They may have had several versions but aren't the physical dimensions of them pretty much the same? I can't give you a model number or anything, but in a given extension tube set, you want the shortest one (a Number 1 tube). _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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billdababilonia
Joined: 07 May 2015 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:21 am Post subject: |
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billdababilonia wrote:
thanks for the reply, the tubes in the length, are distinct from each other, I was afraid to buy a wrong and not working.
from what I have researched disassemble the tube, only the part of the bayonet will use to adapt?
http://www.getdpi.com/forum/attachments/gear-fs-or-wtb/73167d1369505119-fs-pentax-67-3-piece-extension-tubes-$80-_1020608-jpg
My doubt is how many mm I need to remove the back, telling how the size of the extension tube of the bayonet. |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:30 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Actually you're right, you just need the bayonet part, so it can be from any of the tubes, as long as this part can be easily screwed off:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68874194@N06/6980690882/in/set-72157629565222860
There's minimal altering that needs to be done with the lathe of this. More on the lens side, but the whole process took less than an hour. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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billdababilonia
Joined: 07 May 2015 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:08 am Post subject: |
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billdababilonia wrote:
I think I'll be able to do the adaptation, understanding the process
Thank you.
In this photo made two arrows my doubts, the tube inside the lens red arrow
the distance there is 10.4 after sawed?
Another thing I was in doubt the base of the lens yellow arrow was also sawed? |
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billdababilonia
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:10 am Post subject: |
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araucaria
Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 63
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:06 am Post subject: |
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araucaria wrote:
I've always wondered how it compares to the pentax 165 2.8. |
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billdababilonia
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:47 am Post subject: |
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billdababilonia wrote:
I made a brief comparison in 35mm
the zeiss does better open.
if all goes well I hope to compare the 6x7 |
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littleearth
Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 77 Location: PT
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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littleearth wrote:
I had both and they are good performers.
The Zeiss (MC) performed better in all aspects, and it has that amazing pop and microcontrast the Sonnar is known for. Unlike the 105mm, the 165mm never really impressed me.
The only issue with the CZJ is the build quality and the fact that it's a huge chunk of glass. On the other hand, after handling the Aero Ektar 175mm the Sonnar doesn't feel that heavy anymore.
165mm wide open and a little soft due to 1/60 handheld
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billdababilonia
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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billdababilonia wrote:
Hi littleearth
I saw that you mentioned EKTAR 178mm 2.5, think worth the inverstimento? I found a person who adapts to bodies 6x7.
thanks |
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