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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Affordable ultra wide angle lenses Reply with quote

I am considering an ultra wide angle lens as the backup for my Flektogon 4/20. Here I put a list of affordable lenses as a reference.
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17 mm

Tamron 51B SP 17mm f/3.5
Tamron 151B SP 17mm f/3.5
Tokina RMC TL 17mm f/3.5
Soligor 17mm f/3.5
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19 mm

Vivitar 19mm f/3.5
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20 mm

Cosina 20mm f/3.8
Yashica DS 20mm f/3.3
Yashica ML 20mm f/3.3
Mir 20M 20mm f/3.5
Mir 47N 20mm f/2.5
Mir 73N (Arsat) 20mm f/2.8
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21 mm

Yashica DX 21mm f/3.3
Yashica ML 21mm f/3.3
Soligor 21mm f/3.8
Chinon (Tomioka) 21mm f/3.5
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a 20 mm, why don't you go for a bit wide - 17mm in the list-?

12, 13, 15, 17 mm can give us a new vision of the same things.

Good luck. Rino.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a Tokina RMC 3.5/17 for a couple of weeks. I haven't had any experience with anything similar but I'm very happy with it. Before I spotted the Tokina on ebay I was thinking about one of the Russian 20s. I still am - but I'm not sure which one to go for.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
If you have a 20 mm, why don't you go for a bit wide - 17mm in the list-?

12, 13, 15, 17 mm can give us a new vision of the same things.

Good luck. Rino.


I just know there are two cheap fisheye lenses.

Peleng 8mm f/3.5
Zenitar 16mm f/2.8

But other 12, 13, 15 mm lens are usually very expensive, so could hardly be regarded as "affordable".

sichko wrote:
I've had a Tokina RMC 3.5/17 for a couple of weeks. I've haven't had any experience with anything similar but I'm very happy with it. Before I spotted the Tokina on ebay I was thinking about one of the Russian 20s. I still am - but I'm not sure which one to go for.


Me too. I am still waiting for a detailed review/comparison on lovely Mir 20 mm family.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
estudleon wrote:
If you have a 20 mm, why don't you go for a bit wide - 17mm in the list-?

12, 13, 15, 17 mm can give us a new vision of the same things.

Good luck. Rino.


I just know there are two cheap fisheye lenses.

Peleng 8mm f/3.5
Zenitar 16mm f/2.8

But other 12, 13, 15 mm lens are usually very expensive, so could hardly be regarded as "affordable".



The Sigma 14mm f3.5 is affordable...And its not a fisheye! Wink


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tokina 3.5/17 you can also get as a Vivitar 3.5/17 (same lens!).


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the sigma is good on cropped came
It is not sharp in corners for FF
I have one FS also a Tokina
The Tokina is better and less dorayme Smile


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:
the sigma is good on cropped came
It is not sharp in corners for FF
I have one FS also a Tokina
The Tokina is better and less dorayme Smile


She's Austrian Andy (= German speaking), so it would be "doremi".... Wink


PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Yes you have me on that.
I was thinking more like NY Bronx

Dough Ray Me Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently heard from one of my friends, that there is a Seagull 17mm f/4 which is made in China. The price is rather cheap, 80€ for a brand new one, and 40€ for a second hand one. It provides reasonable photo quality, though the ML coating does not work very well.

Anyway I am quite interesting in it now. My friend promises to bring one for me, when he visits China later this year or early next year. A new toy, isn't it.


kds315* wrote:
You have mail.


Thank you !


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
I have recently heard from one of my friends, that there is a Seagull 17mm f/4 which is made in China.

Does this Seagull lens exist in Minolta MD or Pentax K mount ?
I know some Seagull manual SLR are brand new China made Minolta X-300s Smile


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flor27 wrote:
Sandie wrote:
I have recently heard from one of my friends, that there is a Seagull 17mm f/4 which is made in China.

Does this Seagull exist in Minolta MD or Pentax K mount ?
I know some Seagull manual SLR are brand new China made Minolta X-300s Smile


It has MD and PK mount only.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be interested in a second hand 20mm MD mount Embarassed


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just asked my friend, he said there is only 17mm f/4 and 24mm f/2.8 available.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a 175€ S-M-C Takumar 20/4.5? Wink


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how affordable, but I did like your samples very much.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
I don't know how affordable, but I did like your samples very much.


Well I think thats the average price for them. They are not very common and looking in your database it's going price seem to be around 250$. There is only one on Ebay now and its at 300£ Surprised.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
I just asked my friend, he said there is only 17mm f/4 and 24mm f/2.8 available.


Oops I was thing of the 17mm but wrote 20...
Again, still interested in the 17mm in MD mount Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I could make a brief review first, then you could judge whether it worths the money. Anyway I have to wait it for couple of months.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is how it looks http://www.lensinfo.co.kr/lensinfo/view.html?id=804&maker=99&page=1 http://www.kasancamera.co.kr/system/mall.php?cat=004010001&query=view&no=6127 & http://www.photax.se/kmrr/obj/mf/mfobjektiv.htm (first one)