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twinquartz
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 Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: Graphics card for Photoshop - AMD or NVIDIA? |
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twinquartz wrote:
There is a rumour that AMD/Radeon graphics cards
work better for Photoshop CS6 use than a graphics card
with an NVIDIA processor.
Since I dislike fan noise, I prefer the silent, passive types.
Would a modern, passive AMD HD7750 card give much better
performance than a silent NVIDIA GST450 which is a few years old? |
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std
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std wrote:
According to videocardbenchmark.net both cards have similar performance around 1600 points - not great by current standards.
I have this silent HD7750 from 2 years already so it is quite old card too. It's not bad - most of the games are working decently and it is silent. This is the reason i got it on first place as everything is cooling passively on my PC - CPU, video, PSU, SSD and it is dead silent.
Don't know if Photoshop will run faster with HD7750 as I'm not a Photoshop user.
If you want i can run some tests between HD7750 and the Intel which is integrated on my motherboard.
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Nordentro wrote:
Graphic cards will normally not be noisy in PS. PS is more of a RAM and CPU consumer.
There are some improvement in GUI performance and some filters if you have a graphic card that support OpenGL acceleration, your card must support OpenGL v2.0 and Shader Model 3.0 or later. To use OpenCL acceleration, your card must support OpenCL v1.1 or later.
Most never graphic cards should support this 
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LucisPictor wrote:
Fast CPU and a looooooot of RAM. The graphic card supports the performance.
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RSalles wrote:
There is a rumour also - and I can confirm it's not just that - with equal +/- performance, an AMD Video Card will run better and has more stability in a PC running AMD processor, and NVidia with a PC running a Intel processor - in the case where both processors and VC has an average equal performance,
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calvin83
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calvin83 wrote:
+1 for better CPU(use intel if possible) and more memory for large raw file/stretching etc. Set a larger memory under the performance setting in Photoshop preference.
For better color accuracy in the print, it is better to calibrate the monitor and use a proper profile in Photoshop. If you have a monitor with true 10-bit wide color gamut, you will need a workstation grade display card to use 30 Bit Display on Photoshop.
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
Advice given to me when I had a PC built was that the different graphics cards have a little or no effect on the speed of photoshop. I use the built in type - no idea what it is, a quad core processor and 6gb of shared RAM. It goes like shit off a shovel.
As someone else mentioned, it's processor speed and pc RAM that affects speed in PS.
Games and HD video are a different thing. If this is your thing go for whats best for them.
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twinquartz
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twinquartz wrote:
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| Advice given to me when I had a PC built was that the different graphics cards have a little or no effect on the speed of photoshop... |
Sorry that was a bad piece of advice, it depends on what actions you ask Photoshop to perform.
I have run tests on my main work horse (i7 processor and 12 Gig RAM)
with the few graphics cards I have available. On a certain photo, I did a
Filter|Adaptive Wide Angle. I changed the Focal Length setting to minimum
and clicked OK.
Nvidia GTS450 = 26 seconds.
AMD EAH4870 = 13 seconds.
Verdict: the graphics card is of importance for certain Photoshop operations. |
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Dogtag
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| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Graphics card for Photoshop - AMD or NVIDIA? |
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Dogtag wrote:
| twinquartz wrote: |
There is a rumour that AMD/Radeon graphics cards
work better for Photoshop CS6 use than a graphics card
with an NVIDIA processor.
Since I dislike fan noise, I prefer the silent, passive types.
Would a modern, passive AMD HD7750 card give much better
performance than a silent NVIDIA GST450 which is a few years old? |
In CAD my preferences are with nvidia, way better drivers then ati (linux or windows).
For PS, what LucisPictor said,
An intel hd 4000+ (silent as long as your cpu fan is silent) would be enough as long as you have fast drive (ssd) a lot of memory and core i5 or better.
Im using a gtx570 intel xeon 1230v3, 128GB ssd+ 2TB harddisks 16GB mem. I have no complaints 
Also have the surface pro 128 GB and 4GB mem, works well just a bit slower processing effects.
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| philslizzy wrote: |
| Advice given to me when I had a PC built was that the different graphics cards have a little or no effect on the speed of photoshop... |
Sorry that was a bad piece of advice, it depends on what actions you ask Photoshop to perform.
I have run tests on my main work horse (i7 processor and 12 Gig RAM)
with the few graphics cards I have available. On a certain photo, I did a
Filter|Adaptive Wide Angle. I changed the Focal Length setting to minimum
and clicked OK.
Nvidia GTS450 = 26 seconds.
AMD EAH4870 = 13 seconds.
Verdict: the graphics card is of importance for certain Photo shop operations. |
No that's your obsolete verdict, The difference is the hd4870 got hardware support  NOW
nvidia uses CUDA so it's hardware supported & optimized for Rendering/ (Some PS options).
But most tasks ask for fast cpu and ram, why because it's mainly 2d and software specific (3d has optimized hardware).
CUDA uses the GPU to calculate what the CPU did in the old days and it's very efficient in doing the tasks PS needs.
So in effect it turns the GPU to a larger CPU.
Most guys here know a lot about photography hardware but for PC specific questions there are better forums out there
And if you know the question why ask it?
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calvin83
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calvin83 wrote:
Photoshop CS6/CC use only OpenGL and OpenCL for acceleration. Both AMD or Nvidia card will works if they are not outdated. EAH4870 too old and it is not on the list of tested card on Photoshop CC.
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq1.html
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Note: AMD/ATI 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 series, nVidia GeForce 7000, 8000, 9000, 100, 200, 300 series and Intel HD Graphics (First generation) cards/GPUs are no longer being tested and are not officially supported in Photoshop CC. Some GL functionality is available for these cards, but it's possible that newer features don't work. |
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
| twinquartz wrote: |
| philslizzy wrote: |
| Advice given to me when I had a PC built was that the different graphics cards have a little or no effect on the speed of photoshop... |
Sorry that was a bad piece of advice, it depends on what actions you ask Photoshop to perform.
I have run tests on my main work horse (i7 processor and 12 Gig RAM)
with the few graphics cards I have available. On a certain photo, I did a
Filter|Adaptive Wide Angle. I changed the Focal Length setting to minimum
and clicked OK.
Nvidia GTS450 = 26 seconds.
AMD EAH4870 = 13 seconds.
Verdict: the graphics card is of importance for certain Photoshop operations. |
I have never performed this operation. I find that photoshop's speed depends on other variables not mentioned above but I wont go into them. There appears to be a consensus of opinion here. Take note.
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Nikonshooter wrote:
I would get a Quadro card or another similar one that outputs 16bit color on the full spectrum.
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std wrote:
Speaking of passive cards- nowdays it's maybe better idea to get the silent R9 270.
it's a little bit more expensive but scoring 4225 points on the benchmark it's definitely nice for a fanless card.
Powercolor Radeon R9 270 SCS3 "SILENT" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-170-PC
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kawasakiguy37
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kawasakiguy37 wrote:
Nvidia will be better in any video editing program because of CUDA. For photoshop I'd just get the faster card with more memory bandwith (this last part is very important - a 256 bit card with less memory is a lot better than a 128 with more)
Realistically though its all about CPU and RAM for photoshop - an SSD wouldnt hurt at all either for your OS/PS install/SWAP
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