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maldaye
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: Soft Focus Lenses Tamron 70-150 vs Mamiya 180mm Sekor |
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maldaye wrote:
Alright after reading a couple of threads and much discussions with my two fellow photographers I made up my mind that my next purchase is going to be a soft focus lens. Easier said then done as I just discovered there is a quiet a few of those around!
The two on the radar is Tamron 70-150mm vs Mamiya 150/180 Sekor Lens.
The cost difference of course can be huge, especially between the Tamron and the 150 Sekor. I admit I love the Tamrons and I admit it is cool to have a RARE lens in my collection. However, I am more interested in results then feelings. Is there a drastic difference in output between the two? I have good zooms, so I am not in a rush to buy a zoom for a zoom sake. What I want is that lens I can use for soft focus during weddings, portraits, etc. Are they comparable or am I just going to get my money's worth via the Tamron even if double/triple the price?
Any feedback is welcome and cross finger that he can afford a Tamron |
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bernhardas
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16623 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Soft Focus Lenses Tamron 70-150 vs Mamiya 180mm Sekor |
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kds315* wrote:
maldaye wrote: |
Alright after reading a couple of threads and much discussions with my two fellow photographers I made up my mind that my next purchase is going to be a soft focus lens. Easier said then done as I just discovered there is a quiet a few of those around!
The two on the radar is Tamron 70-150mm vs Mamiya 150/180 Sekor Lens.
The cost difference of course can be huge, especially between the Tamron and the 150 Sekor. I admit I love the Tamrons and I admit it is cool to have a RARE lens in my collection. However, I am more interested in results then feelings. Is there a drastic difference in output between the two? I have good zooms, so I am not in a rush to buy a zoom for a zoom sake. What I want is that lens I can use for soft focus during weddings, portraits, etc. Are they comparable or am I just going to get my money's worth via the Tamron even if double/triple the price?
Any feedback is welcome and cross finger that he can afford a Tamron |
Well, I have a 2nd Kenko 2.5/85mm soft focus lens you could have if you like. It has a T-mount, so fits basically all cameras you can get such an adapter for. It is quite affordable compared to others.
http://forum.mflenses.com/kenko-2-5-85mm-soft-focus-lens-t30549,highlight,%2Bsoft+%2Bfocus.html _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Bille
Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Posts: 381
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Soft Focus Lenses Tamron 70-150 vs Mamiya 180mm Sekor |
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Bille wrote:
maldaye wrote: |
Alright after reading a couple of threads and much discussions with my two fellow photographers I made up my mind that my next purchase is going to be a soft focus lens. |
Or maybe just a Zeiss Softar?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41yFzdnfJGL._SY300_.jpg |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16623 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Oh well, again that old same thing again...
A filter or vaseline etc lets black bleed into teh whites, a real soft focus lens allows a
glow and shimmer that no filter can replace ... sighhhhh _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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maldaye
Joined: 19 Jun 2013 Posts: 316
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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maldaye wrote:
(please don't quote images what has just been posted...thx, mod)
*shhhs* My wife almost smacked me up the head for mentioning getting the lens. She is a make-up artist and she always want 'sharp sharp' photo of the face. Her teacher fault he is a photographer who kept drilling it in her head and how all he ever needs is a 3 light setup that doesn't change very much and a 70-200 VRII lens. Good teacher of makeup though.
Anyway, what I want is to get the soft focus without losing focus to the eyes, nose, and mouth. That is why I was contemplating the Tamron SP, but it went south of $600 - out of my budget
Can you attain that kind of selective sharpness with this lens? |
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maldaye
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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maldaye wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Oh well, again that old same thing again...
A filter or vaseline etc lets black bleed into teh whites, a real soft focus lens allows a
glow and shimmer that no filter can replace ... sighhhhh |
There... there.....I feel your pain... My friend just made the same recommendation on yahoo IM and we argued for 30 minutes about it. Plus, I dare not use vaseline on a lens in fear of damage to the coating or the lens body. I heard some prefer to use stockings with holes in it, but as the commerical says: "it tastes good, but it ain't oatmeal!" |
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maldaye
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Soft Focus Lenses Tamron 70-150 vs Mamiya 180mm Sekor |
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maldaye wrote:
The 145mm is over $300. I think the fact that it can be mounted to Nikon and other 35mm bodie might have pushed it up the scale. The RB lenses are much much cheaper, but I have to buy an adapater with hellicoid for $150 - at least that is a one time purchase.
Tell me more about the lens image quality/effects and how much you want for it.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16623 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
One uses a cheap UV filter for that - of course
Any good soft focus lens allows to adjust from sharp to soft! So even sharp sharp can be had
(shot with the Kenko SF lens - now printed as examples in the famous book: "Langford's Advanced Photography, 8th edition") _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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maldaye
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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maldaye wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
One uses a cheap UV filter for that - of course
Any good soft focus lens allows to adjust from sharp to soft! So even sharp sharp can be had
(shot with the Kenko SF lens - now printed as examples in the famous book: "Langford's Advanced Photography, 8th edition") |
Count me interested, but i still need the price. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16623 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
You have PM _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Bille
Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Posts: 381
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bille wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
A filter or vaseline etc lets black bleed into teh whites, a real soft focus lens allows a
glow and shimmer that no filter can replace ... sighhhhh |
Blacks bleeding into whites? Tell me more about it.
http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/soft-focus/ |
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bernhardas
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Soft Focus Lenses Tamron 70-150 vs Mamiya 180mm Sekor |
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bernhardas wrote:
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luisalegria
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:53 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Or you could chase the elusive Petzval! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16623 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Which does not allow to control teh SF effect tho... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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ZoneV
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Take a cheap Sigma YS 135mm f/2.8 and use it with extension tubes, best if you modify it.
It is a bit like Nikon Defocus Control lenses for changing the spherical aberration to get different bokeh.
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