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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:03 am    Post subject: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can't offer any advice on the lenses there as they exceed my price limits but the question I always ask myself is can I afford it? if the answer is yes.....well that's the outcome then:)

I don't see ziess glass losing its value so if you can pick it up at the right price you can always sell it off to someone if you're not pleased with your results.

that's how I cope with the buying bug!!


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is definitely worth buying 100/3.5 C/Y even if you have 100/2 MP.These are different beasts for different purposes.You can take small and compact 100/3.5 C/Y where heavy 100/2 would be too large/and or macro is not needed,and still enjoy Zeiss IQ.

100/3.5 C/Y's IQ is similar to excellent Sonnar 85/2.8 C/Y,which is very sharp and contrasty with vivid colour rendition.One of Zeiss C/Y lenses able to render Zeiss 3D look pretty often.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is ALWAYS a good reason or excuse to buy a Zeiss lens!
Weight, size, an other philosophy in lens design....
and in the case of the 3,5/100 it's relative rareness:
http://slrlensreview.com/web/reviews/carl-zeiss-lenses-swhorizontalmenu-172/zeiss-telephoto/677-carl-zeiss-sonnar-t-100mm-f35-cy-lens-review

as the salesman in my preferred camera shop says:
"Do something good to Yourself, buy this lens" - I never did regret his advice Wink

and think 'bout the alternative: You already own the higher priced 2/100, financial expence could be worse in the contrary case! Shocked


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congratulations! The Sonnar is indeed a very different beast than the Makro Planar, has a very creamy and pleasant bokeh and is the ideal portrait lens, further it is much smaller and lighter.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bernhardas wrote:
Well it is not yet the end of January and I have already used up the April Budget Shocked


Congrats from me too!
Your'e a funny guy: thinking in months budged haha!

It's time to get 2016 on my account! Embarassed


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Go for it! Smile MM version!

It is an excellent lens.
http://allphotolenses.com/public/files/pdfs/d93f15e2a7871ad91a443683a95e5361.pdf


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got a near mint MM version of this lens very cheaply (£100) a couple of years ago. My thoughts were that it would make an ideal partner to a 25mm and 50mm as a 3 lens walk around set for my 159MM, due to it's compact size. The lens is every bit as good as it is reputed to be but I still sold it on. The 100mm focal length is not a favourite and even a very good Zeiss wasn't enough to change that!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had this lens, and although I am a fan of Zeiss C/Y lenses, I sold this one. Mind you, it's a great lens, sharp, and with a lot of "pop". However, it appears to be a stretched version of the Sonnar 85/2.8, which offers a more convenient field of view and visibly faster aperture. I also found the 85mm Sonnar much easier to focus. In the end of the day, I decided to part with the 100/3.5, and have no regrets.

In other words, if you already have the 100/2, why not complement it with a slightly different lens, a Sonnar 85/2.8?


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have this lens and it is a keeper. Small, sharp, pop and nice bokeh plus it doesn't flare (especially with a hood, which I don't use anyway). Take a look at the MTF charts, they look very very good.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try it before you decide to keep it or not. You can always sell it for what you paid or more if you buy it at good price.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
bernhardas wrote:
Maybe the topic post heading is a bit misleading.

Maybe I rather need lens buying syndrome counseling Shocked

Does it make any sense to buy the contax zeiss 100 3.5 sonnar Mmj when I have the zeiss 100 2 macro planar?

Is the sonar really visibly different from the planar?

Sharpness is not my major consideration. How about tonality and pop?


Tonality and pop, or looking for something that renders a little differently.
I had to grin when I read of your predicament bernhardas, because I was going through the same process myself, but over a different lens.
I have several 135/3.5 lenses and was torturing myself over whether to acquire a Komura of the same specs.
Not quite into the rarified air of Zeiss but same same (only different ....haha)
Anyhoo, the Komura is on its way - we shall see if it was different enough to have been worth it.
It will be interesting for you to compare - hopefully you will let us know your impressions?
OH


PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:

Tonality and pop, or looking for something that renders a little differently.
I had to grin when I read of your predicament bernhardas, because I was going through the same process myself, but over a different lens.
I have several 135/3.5 lenses and was torturing myself over whether to acquire a Komura of the same specs.
Not quite into the rarified air of Zeiss but same same (only different ....haha)
Anyhoo, the Komura is on its way - we shall see if it was different enough to have been worth it.
It will be interesting for you to compare - hopefully you will let us know your impressions?
OH


I had the Komura for a while, mine was m42 with a preset aperture. It's very good, with a quite unique character, I think you will like it (if it's the same lens, otherwise I don't know).


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
Aanything wrote:
Oldhand wrote:

Tonality and pop, or looking for something that renders a little differently.
I had to grin when I read of your predicament bernhardas, because I was going through the same process myself, but over a different lens.
I have several 135/3.5 lenses and was torturing myself over whether to acquire a Komura of the same specs.
Not quite into the rarified air of Zeiss but same same (only different ....haha)
Anyhoo, the Komura is on its way - we shall see if it was different enough to have been worth it.
It will be interesting for you to compare - hopefully you will let us know your impressions?
OH


I had the Komura for a while, mine was m42 with a preset aperture. It's very good, with a quite unique character, I think you will like it (if it's the same lens, otherwise I don't know).


Thank you for the re-assurance Aanything.
I am looking forward to the Komura experience.
My only exposure to Komura before this was the Komura Teleplus 2X and my Komura 50m/2.8 enlarger lens.
The enlarger lens was fantastic, but the Teleplus was a disappointment, lacking in definition and contrast.
The komura that I am awaiting is a pre-set 135/3.5.
With anticipation, waiting, am I
OH


PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
bernhardas wrote:

Does it make any sense to buy the contax zeiss 100 3.5 sonnar Mmj when I have the zeiss 100 2 macro planar?


No.

Just thought I would offer you some conservative advice to go along with all the lens buying advocates. I'll bet that Planar is awesome. Aside from the size - travel considerations, which I think are rationalizations, you would just be getting another excellent lens, but slower, which means less flexibility. I have three very good 100mm lenses; Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 100mm f/3.5; Topcon 100mm f/2.8 RE Auto-Topcor; and Kalejnar 100mm f/2.8. When the IQ is excellent beyond reasonable examination between images, I usually pick up the faster lens. When you consider price, it becomes a whole different game. Can you tell which was from which?







PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:

I am looking forward to the Komura experience.
OH


I also have the Komura 135/3.5 and 135/2.8. Again, I prefer the faster version, but both are very good. This from the f/3.5:


PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Zeiss 100 3.5 advice needed Reply with quote
woodrim wrote:
Oldhand wrote:

I am looking forward to the Komura experience.
OH


I also have the Komura 135/3.5 and 135/2.8. Again, I prefer the faster version, but both are very good. This from the f/3.5:


Looks good.
Gratias Woodrim
OH


PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats! I have this lens, small, very sharp with stunning bokeh, I often yield against 85mm f1.4 Planar , you will love it I think.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bernhardas: The Komura will most certainly not offend anyone's size aversion. Hmmm, I had the perception that Dubai was a more relaxed country.

You may have made my point. The butterfly is not from Kalejnar. I picked a picture from each lens which I thought displayed some pop. I have found that the elusive pop is a result of multiple factors, with only one being attributable to the lens' capabilities. However, I have not found the precise formula as it occurs at random for the moment. I'll have to take some time to examine photo and determine distances both in front and behind focus point. Maybe also lighting at all points.
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