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caspert79
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:58 pm Post subject: Test 2:M.Zuiko 45/1.8 vs Yashinon DS 50/1.9 + 2 extra lenses |
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caspert79 wrote:
A second comparison between the M.Zuiko 45/1.8 digital vs Yashinon DS 50/1.9 + this time, 2 extra lenses added: the Super-Takumar 55/1.8 and Micro-Nikkor 55/2.8.
First the M.Zuiko vs the Yashinon:
Then, the Super-Takumar vs the Micro-Nikkor:
Quite some flare noticeable in the single coated Takumar.
Finally, the 100% crops:
Conclusion:
The Zuiko is already very sharp and contrasty wide open, quite amazing. Also, very good micro-contrast.
The Yashinon sharp enough from f/2.8, but clearly less contrast and micro-contrast than the Zuiko. Image @5.6 suffers from some flare.
The Super-Takumar quite a bit of flare @2.8 and @5.6 resulting in less contrasty image. Images seem also not that sharp (might be this particular copy). Focusing was conducted very carefully.
The Micro-Nikkor as expected, shows very good detail and (micro-)contrast. Lovely colors as well. |
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Mos6502
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
I'm curious about where the flare is coming from, I can't get that sort of flare on any of my lenses unless there is something very bright right next to the lens. It might be helpful to eliminate whatever the source is for the purposes of comparison.
I also think the Tak may suffer a bit from having a little shallower DOF than the other lenses, although it's also the oldest design amongst this group. |
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well I agree in that it make two (yours and mine) super Taks that are just short of razor sharp.
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caspert79
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I think I have a second copy of a 55/1.8 takumar somewhere. Maybe tomorrow a new test! |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks again.
The Zuiko is a standout here isn't it.
I am surprised by the poor showing of the Super Takumar - maybe it is not indicative of the genre.
It will be interesting to see your follow up test on a second copy.
Interesting library selection as well.
Much appreciated
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
Thanks again.
The Zuiko is a standout here isn't it.
I am surprised by the poor showing of the Super Takumar - maybe it is not indicative of the genre.
It will be interesting to see your follow up test on a second copy.
Interesting library selection as well.
Much appreciated
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Well my son has parked his Canon 400d at my house and have bought a M42 adapter, now if I can work out how to use it on manual  I'd be interested how my super Tak stacks up against my:- Helios 44m, 44-2, Tessar and Meyer Oreston.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| Oldhand wrote: |
Thanks again.
The Zuiko is a standout here isn't it.
I am surprised by the poor showing of the Super Takumar - maybe it is not indicative of the genre.
It will be interesting to see your follow up test on a second copy.
Interesting library selection as well.
Much appreciated
OH |
Well my son has parked his Canon 400d at my house and have bought a M42 adapter, now if I can work out how to use it on manual I'd be interested how my super Tak stacks up against my:- Helios 44m, 44-2, Tessar and Meyer Oreston. |
I, too would be interested in this one.
OH |
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
| Excalibur wrote: |
| Oldhand wrote: |
Thanks again.
The Zuiko is a standout here isn't it.
I am surprised by the poor showing of the Super Takumar - maybe it is not indicative of the genre.
It will be interesting to see your follow up test on a second copy.
Interesting library selection as well.
Much appreciated
OH |
Well my son has parked his Canon 400d at my house and have bought a M42 adapter, now if I can work out how to use it on manual I'd be interested how my super Tak stacks up against my:- Helios 44m, 44-2, Tessar and Meyer Oreston. |
I, too would be interested in this one.
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With the crappy viewfinder of the 400d it's lucky you can machine gun as for close ups, would have to adjust the focus on the lens in increments and select the shot in focus You'd think the camera would have a focus lock lit diode....I'll have to read the manual and see if this can be selected. Anyway I don't want to ruin this thread by side tracking, I'll start another thread if I'm successful.
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caspert79
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
A little update concerning the Super-Takumar lenses.
On the left: the copy tested yesterday. On the right: a good copy. Quite a difference indeed!
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
| caspert79 wrote: |
A little update concerning the Super-Takumar lenses.
On the left: the copy tested yesterday. On the right: a good copy. Quite a difference indeed!
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Oh my - what a difference.
The second is more like what we expect from a super takumar.
Thanks again
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