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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: The (In)famous Spiratone 400/6.3 |
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luisalegria wrote:
This is of course about that most celebrated of all long lenses, the iconic cheap mail order special, the "girl-watching lens", the subject of decades of more-or-less sleazy ads in the camera magazines. For a certain generation of camera nut (in the US anyway), there probably isn't a more recognizable lens.
I have to admit I have one - in some parts that was almost a mark of shame ! And it may still be !
These things are still around, there are always a few Spiratones on ebay, and even more of them under other brands. And they are cheaper than ever - I got mine recently for @ $20, and that seems to be the going rate. If yours doesn't come with a 72mm UV filter (which usually was in the original package), you will be missing half the value of your purchase ! They are all T-mounts, so they can be used (or misused) on anything.
So what are they like ?
I have to say that - oh the shame ! - I like it.
Its a very light lens, half or less the weight of my Komura 400, and a fraction of anything modern of that focal length, save a mirror. And this thing is even lighter than a lot of mirrors, certainly the Russian MTO's I used to see. It feels cheap, and looks cheap, but mechanically it works very well. It handles very nicely in fact, once you get used to the length.
Focusing is smooth, light, and quick, and I would be more confident of trying a moving situation with this than the Komura. Its a pre-set, and that is good, because you really do want to get the best depth of field with these, but you will want the brightest image you can get to focus with in the first place. I have usually treated pre-sets as manual, but on this type of lens the pre-set is valuable. F/6.3 is a pretty small aperture by modern standards, but its DOF on a 400mm can seem tiny.
I handheld every shot, and its at times like these that the Pentax shake reduction shows its value - it can get more DOF for a given amount of light.
As for the optical quality- I have to say it doesn't seem up to the Komura, but that doesn't mean it can't give reasonably good results. The worst problems with long lenses are focusing errors and shake, and getting past these is hard enough that optical quality seems to be a minor worry.
And of course, the bird -
100% crop -
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Luis, it seems you have worked out all those mentioned shaking and focusing problems... Nice series!.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
These non tele long lenses give surprisingly good results _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I guess you are lot better photographer than these lenses.. you can produce wonderful result with a simple tube too.. I don't believe this lens this good
Many thanks for sharing! _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Full size images are here _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
the full size look quite good for a 400mm and for 20$ _________________ T* |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes indeed. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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