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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: Jupiter 8 50/2 |
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Lena wrote:
I got a new toy for Children's Day Mint condition, with caps and storage tube. 1953 red "P".
I don't have a proper M39 to Nikon adapter, so I used M39-M42 ring with my M42 adapter and ended up in quasi-macro mode.
Some test shots attached, unprocessed apart from RAW-> jpg and some crop.
wide open (not too sharp, but the bokeh is fun)
stopped down
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
A lovely lens and so sharp stopped down a bit. My copy is not as old as yours but it is my favourite 50. I hadn't thought of using it on my Nikon.
I like the last photo, you really got the detail of the dandelion head. The full aperture brigade could never get a shot like that!
Hope you had a good Childrens Day. My (Polish) wife told me about it. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
The dandelion is great, just saw it in the flickr applet and thought "what a well executed shot, I want to do something similar". Congrats. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The shots are very well done but the lens should be sharper than this.
Wide open on my NEX, all my J8s are quite a bit sharper.
100% crop from my 1955 J8:
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
Wow!
Perhaps my copy will perform better once I mount it properly, not via combined adapters. I will check that out in a few days. |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
100% crop from my 1955 J8: |
Is that the one I gave you Ian? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Very nice lens, congratz _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:58 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
My copy will become soft when focus to close distance with helicoid adapter. Use a mirror-less camera if you want to infinity focus as this RF lens will not focus far on your Nikon SLR. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
+1 to calvin83's comment. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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david_b
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 108 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
Lena, if you don't mind. Two photos with Jupiter8, wide open. My copy is little soft. But is so small
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M42 Helios 44M-4 58mm f2; Helios 44M-6 58mm f2; Pentacon 200mm f4; Jupiter 37AM 135mm f3.5; Industar 50-2 50mm f3.5; Tair 3Phs 300mm f4,5
Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_db/
Last edited by david_b on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Nice images.
I need to use mine more... |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Jupiter 8 50/2 |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Lena wrote: |
I got a new toy for Children's Day Mint condition, with caps and storage tube. 1953 red "P".
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Very nice looking early copy.
I have a later version that does not come with a focusing knob. It holds up pretty well on digital:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurentiucristofor/6971702349
http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurentiucristofor/6825590560 |
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
Now I have a normal M39-Nikon adapter and I'm confused...
M42 and M39 mounts have the same register. My other 50mm M42 lenses let me focus to about 1-1,5 metres with the no-glass adapter.
With the Jupiter I can only get as far as 20 cm. Could anyone please help with an explanation? I'm hopeless with the technical stuff. |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
your assumption that M42 has same register distance as M39 is not correct. yes, there are some SLR cameras which have M39 thread and same register distance as M42 (45.46mm), but "M39" is generaly considered as Leica M39 thread with register distance of 28.8 mm. this applies to rangefinder lenses - which Jupiter 8 is that means, you won' t reach infinity on SLR. _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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david_b
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 108 Location: Europe
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
Lena. Without too much technical numbers:
This is M42 adapter for Olympus DSLR:
This is M42 adapter for Nikon DSLR:
As you can see, for M42 adapters for Nikon and Olympus DSLR are thin, Nikon is even thiner.
This is adapter for M42 for Olympus PEN (OM-d, EPL-1...):
If you use M42 lens on PEN, the adapter is --2cm biger than for DSLR. So betwen DSLR and PEN, there is about 2cm free betwen the lens and camera.
But, if you check M39 adapter for PEN:
you can see that is again thin, so you are missing those 2cm, so you can't mount this lens on DSLR, because you have to put this lens about 2cm inside the DSLR body for normal operation. Of course, you can't do this. There is a miror inside
That is why you can't use m39 on DSLR. the adapter have to be 2cm shorter than the adapter for M42. The adapter for M42 is few mm thick, so no way for this. You are losing infinity and distance. Only close focus.
Same if you put M42 lens on your dslr 2cm away from the camera - you have macro ring.
Hope it is clear. _________________
M42 Helios 44M-4 58mm f2; Helios 44M-6 58mm f2; Pentacon 200mm f4; Jupiter 37AM 135mm f3.5; Industar 50-2 50mm f3.5; Tair 3Phs 300mm f4,5
Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
Thanks Guys, now I finally see the light ( or rather not )
I will part with this one then. |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
your assumption that M42 has same register distance as M39 is not correct. yes, there are some SLR cameras which have M39 thread and same register distance as M42 (45.46mm), but "M39" is generaly considered as Leica M39 thread with register distance of 28.8 mm. this applies to rangefinder lenses - which Jupiter 8 is that means, you won' t reach infinity on SLR. |
FWIW, I have seen some people using LTM or L39 to refer to the rangefinder mount and M39 to refer to the Zenit SLR mount. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Laurentiu Cristofor wrote: |
berraneck wrote: |
your assumption that M42 has same register distance as M39 is not correct. yes, there are some SLR cameras which have M39 thread and same register distance as M42 (45.46mm), but "M39" is generaly considered as Leica M39 thread with register distance of 28.8 mm. this applies to rangefinder lenses - which Jupiter 8 is that means, you won' t reach infinity on SLR. |
FWIW, I have seen some people using LTM or L39 to refer to the rangefinder mount and M39 to refer to the Zenit SLR mount. |
You are right Laurentiu.
L39 for "Leica" type rangefinders.
Lena's Jupiter-8 comes from a soviet rangefinder, such as a Zorki-3 or Zorki-4. These cameras' design directly come from Leica cameras.
These cameras have shorter register distance than the reflex cameras.
Lena, your Jupiter-8 will work very fine when mounted on a 4/3 camera such as an Olympus Pen or a Panasonic G with a l39/M43 adapter.
When mounted on a reflex dslr, it only gives a very good macro lens.
There are M39 lenses made for reflex cameras. For instance I have an old Jupiter-6 2.8/180mm in M39 mount.
I adapt it on my 5D with a simple step up screw ring 39mm to 42mm, then a M42 to Eos adapter. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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