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bychance
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 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:10 am Post subject: Lens mount help |
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bychance wrote:
I have just got hold of a Soligor 200mm f4.5 serial No 284608 in what appears to be an M42 mount. But, it is too tight for my M42/eos adapter and I can't screw it on more than a couple of turns. It is obviously a different mount to the standard M42? I don't know a great deal about different mounts so any advice on what this is would be greatly appreciated.
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norland
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:26 am Post subject: |
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norland wrote:
A mount for Miranda cameras?
That looks very like an M42 but is actually M44.
Surprised it would screw into any M42 adapter socket at all though,
even just a bit -- I've got a Miranda T2 mount here, and it won't. |
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strangelove
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: |
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strangelove wrote:
are the threads damaged on either the lens or the adaptor damaged? |
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Mir wrote:
A picture would probably help !
I was going to say T-Mount http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-mount
As i thought it was different than T2...
But if it's not Miranda.... I remember seing M40 on old German lenses... maybe...
good luck...
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cooltouch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:31 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Hang on -- T-mount is M42, just a different thread pitch. If that old Soligor has a manual aperture, then it's probably T-mount.
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bychance wrote:
Just got back from collecting kids from airport, will post pics later thanks for your thoughts guys.
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visualopsins wrote:
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| Hang on -- T-mount is M42, just a different thread pitch. If that old Soligor has a manual aperture, then it's probably T-mount. |
+1 the lens has T-mount
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luisalegria wrote:
T mount
M44 wouldn't screw in at all on M42.
t-mount is M42x.75 vs normal M42x1 so it does screw in a little way, then jams.
Very many old presets like yours were made for T mounts. This is good news for you as there are t mounts for all sorts of cameras. There are even t mounts being made today. Get a cheap one from China.
Also, t mount = t2 mount, same thing, the difference is just words. After collecting all sorts of t mount lenses and research over the years I have never found a distinction. Even the term was made up rather late. In the early days of the t mount when it was most popular (1961-70) nobody called it that!
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skida
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| Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Lens mount help |
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| bychance wrote: |
I have just got hold of a Soligor 200mm f4.5 serial No 284608 in what appears to be an M42 mount. But, it is too tight for my M42/eos adapter and I can't screw it on more than a couple of turns. It is obviously a different mount to the standard M42? I don't know a great deal about different mounts so any advice on what this is would be greatly appreciated.
Steve. |
That sounds like the exact same experience I had when I got my Optomax 6.3/400. Definitely T Mount and the problem was solved with an T Mount to M42 adapter from China via ebay.
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Lloydy wrote:
I have a 'chrome eared' Soligor 200mm f4.5 and it's T Mount. Visually, it looks close to M42 but it's very different.
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bychance
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bychance wrote:
Thanks all for those replies, sounds like you have nailed it for me,very much appreciated.
I will order one of those adapters and see how the lens performs 
Thank you
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hifisapi wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
T mount
M44 wouldn't screw in at all on M42.
t-mount is M42x.75 vs normal M42x1 so it does screw in a little way, then jams.
Very many old presets like yours were made for T mounts. This is good news for you as there are t mounts for all sorts of cameras. There are even t mounts being made today. Get a cheap one from China.
Also, t mount = t2 mount, same thing, the difference is just words. After collecting all sorts of t mount lenses and research over the years I have never found a distinction. Even the term was made up rather late. In the early days of the t mount when it was most popular (1961-70) nobody called it that! |
in the old days when it was most popular, nobody called it T2, or nobody called it T mount?
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Lloydy wrote:
I've picked up a few at a camera fair, old stock still in the box, which were labeled T2.
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visualopsins wrote:
| hifisapi wrote: |
| luisalegria wrote: |
T mount
M44 wouldn't screw in at all on M42.
t-mount is M42x.75 vs normal M42x1 so it does screw in a little way, then jams.
Very many old presets like yours were made for T mounts. This is good news for you as there are t mounts for all sorts of cameras. There are even t mounts being made today. Get a cheap one from China.
Also, t mount = t2 mount, same thing, the difference is just words. After collecting all sorts of t mount lenses and research over the years I have never found a distinction. Even the term was made up rather late. In the early days of the t mount when it was most popular (1961-70) nobody called it that! |
in the old days when it was most popular, nobody called it T2, or nobody called it T mount? |
Both. The original 'T-mount' was invented by SPIRATONE...yes I have evidence; I will post it later; probably in a new dedicated thread.
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