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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: Biotars |
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Gertjan wrote:
I photographed some of my aluminum Zeiss Jena Lenses. Here are my Biotars.
More Photos of alu Zeiss Jena Lenses, and photos made with them, you can find here on my website: http://www.miedema.dyndns.org/galleries-e/czj-alu/index.html
_________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful lenses, do you have an Exakta Varex too ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: Biotars |
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Gertjan wrote:
Yes, I do have an Exakta Varex VX.
It was my Fathers Camera.
I'm not using it for photographing, it's on display in my living room.
The process of scanning film just got too tedious for me.
It were the lenses accompanying the camera however, that got me on the alternative lenses track.
I was curious how these Lenses would look on my Canon EOS, and the rest is, as they say, history... _________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Put them to Varex too, they are more attractive there in my opinion.
I have same opinion about film a few years ago and now I can't live without film _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I like the fact you showed them off on the canon 5D,they look very stunning. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Beautiful !!
How do they perform in comparison to newer lenses? _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Gertjan wrote:
These Lenses perform very different from modern lenses!
That's why I use them.
Here you can see a Galery of Photos of these Lenses AND examples of Photo's made with them: http://www.miedema.dyndns.org/galleries/czj-alu/index.html _________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Beautiful !!
How do they perform in comparison to newer lenses? |
Biotar can be sharper than Planar 85mm wide open , basically same sharp at all aperture and it has spirit not always easy to shoot with her. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Gertjan wrote:
Oeps! I noticed that above i linked to the wrong Galery. I can't find out how to edit my Post.
Here is the right link to my Alu Carl Zeiss Jena galery: http://www.miedema.dyndns.org/galleries/czj-alu/index.html
Here you also can find Photos made with these lenses.
Attilla, my Biotars are wideopen definitely not as sharp as a modern lens. but I love to use them just the same!
Regards, Gertjan. _________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16628 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
very nice gallery Gertjan and beautiful lenses! These have a wonderful "glow" around esp. visible in your flower shots (shot open I guess). _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gertjan wrote:
Thanks for the compliment, Klaus.
Actually my favorite stop for flower shots is one stop closed down, for both Biotars.
I always make an f-stop series, full open. One stop down etc., and most of the time I choose the one stop down version.
For me this gives the best balance between sharpness and glow / bokeh.
Usually I use a small extension ring to get enough magnification. So I am using the lens a bit outside the focusing range it is optimized for.
It only gives a more beautiful glow!
The Tessar and Biometar are most used wide-open.
Actually, in my gallery you can find the shooting specs (f-stop etc.) under the photos (as far as known)
Regards, Gertjan. _________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Lots of good shots there but "Wiel machinekamer Schiffshebewerk Henrichenburg" stands out (I also edited the link).
I only have the m42 mount 2/58 but I see the attraction to these lenses. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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a20010494
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 396 Location: Perú.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Beautiful !!
How do they perform in comparison to newer lenses? |
Biotar can be sharper than Planar 85mm wide open , basically same sharp at all aperture and it has spirit not always easy to shoot with her. |
I call my glass as girls, too . _________________ www.estudiocaleidoscopio.com |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
a20010494 wrote: |
I call my glass as girls, too . |
I don't as I know some real women.
_________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3240 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I don't as I know some real women.
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Martin, you're the man! lmao |
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Binyo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Binyo wrote:
owesome... what a beautiful lenses! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Beauties indeed!
How do you manage to use an EXA Biotar 2/58 on your fullframe 5D?? _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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Gertjan
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: Exakta-EOS adapters |
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Gertjan wrote:
LucisPictor,
Exakta to Canon EOS adapters are available on e-bay.
I tried several, the best I found look like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/LENS-ADAPTER-Exakta-Topcon-Canon-EOS-EF-500D-7D-5D-/220633147296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335ec2a7a0
you can see them clearly in the photos in my gallery: http://www.miedema.dyndns.org/galleries/czj-alu/index.html
Problem is, that the difference between the Exacta and EOS back focal distance is only 0,7mm.
All adapters I tried were too thick.
I solved this by readjusting the infinity setting of the lenses, however, that was not easy.
Infinity focus on these lenses is adjusted with a spacer ring, which at the factory is chosen for the correct thickness.
Soo, a friend turned for me 0,2-0,3mm thinner rings, in steps of 0,05mm. and with these I could adjust infinity focus again.
The biotar 75 f1.5 is easy to readjust, simply loosen the screws on the focus ring and readjust!
After correcting infinity focus, with some lenses the mirror didn't clear.
So I also had to sand the back retainer rings a bit.
All in all, not the easiest lenses to adapt, but it was sure worth the trouble!
Regards, Gertjan. _________________ Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 20D
Canon 24L, 35L, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.8, 135L, 200 f2.8L, 300-f2.8LIS, 16-35LmkII, 24-105L, 70-200 f2.8LISmkII, 1.4x ext.II, 2x ext.II.
Carl Zeiss ZE 2.8/21, ZE 2/25, ZF 2/35, ZF 2/100 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Jena 4/20 Flek, 4/25 Flek, 2.8/35 Flek, 2/50 Pancolar, 2.8/50 Tessar, 2.8/58 Biotar, 1.5/75 Biotar, 2.8/80 Biometar, 4/135 Sonnar.
Leica-R Elmarit 2.8/28, Macro 2.8/60, 2.8/135.
Pentacon 1.8/50auto, Helios 44-2, 44M & 44-M-6, A.Schacht 2.8/90, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, Jupiter-21M. |
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Biotars |
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raay04 wrote:
Awoesome lenzen _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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