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Battle of the fast standard lenses! Please vote! Pics heavy!
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Which lens is the best?
Lens No. 01
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Lens No. 02
40%
 40%  [ 6 ]
Lens No. 03
46%
 46%  [ 7 ]
Lens No. 04
13%
 13%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 15



PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:21 am    Post subject: Battle of the fast standard lenses! Please vote! Pics heavy! Reply with quote

This is non-scientific test taken afternoon...
All pictures are taken with E-PL1 (Tripod used) without any PP, straight from the camera JPG's.
It will be 3 different scenarios. Please wait to finish upload of all pictures then comment and vote after that.
Wide open pictures are overexposed while camera couldn't handle such shutter speed (also some at F2 or F2.8 as well).
All pictures taken at ISO 100. Each sample picture is taken at full F-stop starting from F1.4...

Lens No. 01










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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 02










PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 03











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 04











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 01










PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 02










PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 03











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 04











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 01










PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 02










PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 03











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens No. 04











PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done with upload... If anyone has any questions please do not hesitate to ask.

It is a lot of pictures however each lens behave differently at each F-stop therefore I uploaded all f-stop samples. Cool


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Batlle of the fast standard lenses! Please vote! Pics he Reply with quote

RAART wrote:
This is non-scientific test taken afternoon...
All pictures are taken with E-PL1 (Tripod used) without any PP, straight from the camera JPG's.
It will be 3 different scenarios. Please wait to finish upload of all pictures then comment and vote after that.
Wide open pictures are overexposed while camera couldn't handle such shutter speed (also some at F2 or F2.8 as well).
All pictures taken at ISO 100. Each sample picture is taken at full F-stop starting from F1.4...


Sorry, me i really dont understand this so called "battle" of fast standard lenses... if the cam is not able to handle such situations with wide open shoot it doesnt make sense to me..whats the intention for such a "battle where you cant correctly see, how the probands works fully open"?

IMHO user do buy fast lenses to use them wide open and not stopped down.

So if you add a poll for a vote which of the fast lenses is best, the minimum requirement for this comparison should be a camera which is able to handle such fast lenses in terms of ISO and shutter speeds to avoid over exposure must be the aim... and only showing and compairing the lenses wide open. Each lens, stopped down 2 or 3 f-stopps works nice.. therefore it doesnt need endless images IMHO

Regards
Henry


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just find out today that PL1 can not handle so fast shutter speed at ISO100 (can not go faster then 2000), my mistake.
I always used lens full potential F1.4-F2.8 very late in the evening or at night but never in the afternoon.
Next time I will wait for the evening and redo just F1.4 to F5.6


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAART wrote:
I just find out today that PL1 can not handle so fast shutter speed at ISO100 (can not go faster then 2000), my mistake.
I always used lens full potential F1.4-F2.8 very late in the evening or at night but never in the afternoon.
Next time I will wait for the evening and redo just F1.4 to F5.6


IMHO for such a comparison it would be better not to seperate the lenses in different posts. Instead of that, show the probands 1. - 5.
in one posting and same aperture values.

The way you to separate the probands, makes it very difficult to compair the lenses, because the user must "scroll" to much with the mouse-wheel.

In one post ...

Lens 1 fully open
Lens 2 fully open
Lens 3 fully open
Lens 4 fully open
...

This makes sense to me to get a good overview over lens performance in a compairison situation. Avoid people must exzessive scrolling...

Regards
Henry


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't look at the pictures, too much to absorb.

I will say this though, comparing lenses is a waste of time, just judge each lens on it's own merits and if it does the job you need it to, then it is good enough, if not, it isn't, so sell it.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lens #3 looks the sharpest when used wide-open. I like fast lenses.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I didn't look at the pictures, too much to absorb.

I will say this though, comparing lenses is a waste of time, just judge each lens on it's own merits and if it does the job you need it to, then it is good enough, if not, it isn't, so sell it.


I will not sell any of them at all. I will keep all of them while each own has own character (color rendition, bokeh, etc.) . You might be surprised which one is which one and at the end the lens people most like. That is the reason I posted all of this. Each lens has each own strengths but also failing somewhere (look at the 4th lens in 3rd sequence fully closed - light tower). There is no perfect lens for all situation therefore I keep all of them.

Try to guess which one is which one. I will reveal at the end which on is which one. It will be surprises there for some people.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, there is no perfect lens, but the differences between 50mm lenses are too small to be really significant imho.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see difference in color rendition, some of them are much brighter at some f stop then others, sharpness...

I am just curious if others see them too.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this is a comparison of fast normal lenses, I care only about their relative performance when used wide open. So I d/l'd all twelve photos with the lenses used at maximum apertures and copied them to my image processing software, then viewed each scene with the photos side-by-side at 100% resolution. As I paged through the examples here, it became obvious that, once the lenses were stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8, they were essentially equivalent to each other. But wide open told a different story. Clearly, Lens #3 has the best resolution and contrast wide open, while Lens #4 performed the worst.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edited

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bernhardas wrote:
Well lens number 4 has the best glow. Even though that is in usual magazine test ranking "the worst" it would probably be the one I'd buy, as I have already a load of sharp lenses.


and I paid most for it...


PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wide open - number 2. Mid range - number 4. I would vote 4 because I would rarely shoot wide open.