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DR.JUAN
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 Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: wich minolta zoom? |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
In the 35/70 range there are some options.
mf. 35/70 3,5- fixed. Macro or not.
mf. 35/70 3,5-4,8
Af. 35/70 4 fixed.
Af. 35/70 3,5-4,5
Wich is the first option to go for?
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Definitely the MD 3.5/35-70mm Macro - a superb lens! 
Second? The same lens without the macro function. 
Here is a shot taken with my macro version on a Sony NEX5N:-
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DR.JUAN
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Thanks a lot, digichromed. |
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
The mf. 35/70 3,5-4,8 is very light as it's plastic construction and might work well on a Nex........but the mf. 35/70 3,5- fixed (Macro or not), is a superior lens as you can see the difference if you pixel peep when both are stopped down, although in one of my tests test (on film) of a brick wall from about 5ft away (and both @ f5.6), the F3.5 fixed was the winner for sharpness.
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Lloydy wrote:
mf. 35/70 3,5- fixed. Macro - it's wonderful! 
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philslizzy wrote:
No contest. Everyone says the same! look:
http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-35-70-3-5-macro-at-blundellsands-t60700.html
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DR.JUAN
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Excalibur, lloydy and philslizzy. Thank you, very much.
Someone told me that the af 35/70 f/4 is in facts the same tban the mf f/3,5 |
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Aanything wrote:
| DR.JUAN wrote: |
Excalibur, lloydy and philslizzy. Thank you, very much.
Someone told me that the af 35/70 f/4 is in facts the same tban the mf f/3,5 |
I'm extremely happy with my AF 35/70 f4, i read that somewhere too, Don't know if it is true, but for sure the mini beercan is really good.
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koji wrote:
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| DR.JUAN wrote: |
Excalibur, lloydy and philslizzy. Thank you, very much.
Someone told me that the af 35/70 f/4 is in facts the same tban the mf f/3,5 |
I'm extremely happy with my AF 35/70 f4, i read that somewhere too, Don't know if it is true, but for sure the mini beercan is really good. |
Please do not spread faulty information about those Minolta zoom lenses.
35-70/3.5 - 8 element / 7 group, MFD = 1m
35-70/3.5 macro - 8 element / 7 group, MFD = 0.8m, "compensating type" (not documented)
AF 35-70/4 - 6 element / 4 group, with an aspherical element
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DR.JUAN
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| DR.JUAN wrote: |
Excalibur, lloydy and philslizzy. Thank you, very much.
Someone told me that the af 35/70 f/4 is in facts the same tban the mf f/3,5 |
I'm extremely happy with my AF 35/70 f4, i read that somewhere too, Don't know if it is true, but for sure the mini beercan is really good. |
Thank you a Aanything. |
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DR.JUAN
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DR.JUAN wrote:
| koji wrote: |
| Aanything wrote: |
| DR.JUAN wrote: |
Excalibur, lloydy and philslizzy. Thank you, very much.
Someone told me that the af 35/70 f/4 is in facts the same tban the mf f/3,5 |
I'm extremely happy with my AF 35/70 f4, i read that somewhere too, Don't know if it is true, but for sure the mini beercan is really good. |
Please do not spread faulty information about those Minolta zoom lenses.
35-70/3.5 - 8 element / 7 group, MFD = 1m
35-70/3.5 macro - 8 element / 7 group, MFD = 0.8m, "compensating type" (not documented)
AF 35-70/4 - 6 element / 4 group, with an aspherical element |
First, thank you koji.
Second, the intention is not to spread foulty things about anything.
I exposed at the forum some information. Never was affirmate only informate.
We are lucky, someone like you can turn on the light over us.
Anyways, the par between both zooms 3,5 and 4 were to the rendering, not over the schame.
And thank you, again |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I had the mini beercan AF 4/35-70, wish I still had it, excellent lens, I had it's big brother too, the 4/80-200, also excellent. I bought them in the early 90s with a Minolta 7000 and AF 1.7/50.
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Excalibur wrote:
Distortion comparing Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 and Minolta 35-70mm f3.5-f4.8...both at F5.6 and set at 35mm on film which would be full frame. Does anyone know why the top of the shot goes at a funny angle 
Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 @ 35mm @ f5.6 full frame
Minolta 35-70mm f3.5-f4.8 @ 35mm @ f5.6 full frame
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DR.JUAN
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| I had the mini beercan AF 4/35-70, wish I still had it, excellent lens, I had it's big brother too, the 4/80-200, also excellent. I bought them in the early 90s with a Minolta 7000 and AF 1.7/50. |
Thanks Ian.
That is my idea about these lenses. |
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DR.JUAN
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Distortion comparing Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 and Minolta 35-70mm f3.5-f4.8...both at F5.6 and set at 35mm on film which would be full frame. Does anyone know why the top of the shot goes at a funny angle
Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 @ 35mm @ f5.6 full frame
Minolta 35-70mm f3.5-f4.8 @ 35mm @ f5.6 full frame
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The wall should be very useful to try lenses.
Your examples show clearly that the 3,5 win.
Thank you for sharing. |
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