KODAK VISION3 500T Color Negative Film

[montecarlo]

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/08/16/cinestill-800-tungsten-x-pro-film-has-a-unique-background/

quite expensive but, better than nothing

[philslizzy]

It will need a specialist processing won't it? And being cine neg there wont be the orange mask making printing difficult.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I used 16mm cine colour neg film in my Minolta-16 yonks ago and had these problems.

[Attila]

Seller say they have 'unique' technology to remove hassles and easy to use as normal photo film.

[philslizzy]

[Attila]

remjet is a dissaster, so probably they just remove remjet re-spool it and sell , everything else issue is there.

[iangreenhalgh1]

It is amazing film, but yes, that remjet is a real PITA.

I have heard some people worked out how to remove it, but I never did.

You can, of course, wipe it with a sponge in the dark before spooling, but that sounds like a recipe for ending up covered in black carbon and that stuff doesn't wash off, I stained my hands black before with remjet, took a week to wear off.

[philslizzy]

wow, so what unique technology do they use then????

Oh, btw, when I used 16mm neg cine film it didnt have a black backing.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Remjet is a modern addition, I think they started adding it in the 90s.

I believe a friend of Jesito has developed a good method of removing remjet, he has a formula for a simple pre-bath that will take it off. I haven't tried it but I have tried pre-baths using dilute household bleach, didn't work, got some of it off but not all, I tried a solution of soda crystals too, didn't work either.

I know I could get it off by pre-soaking in warm water then wiping it off with a sponge, but I gave up as I have a lot of normal colour film to use up first. I have over 500m of Kodak Vision2 stock in my fridge, so I will revisit it one day. If you're feeling masochistic and want to try it, I can spool you up a few rolls. Or hand it in at a lab you don't like! lol

[philslizzy]

[std]

Anyone here has the formula for the jemjet removal bath?
I have few canisters from this and some fuji films that may actually get use.

[Attila]

remjet drop off by household bleach , but not perfectly grafite is everywhere include on film and due need to do in darkness and damn grafite sits everywhere hard to confirm is off fully or partially still there.To a lab equal with a terrorist attack uncleanable perfectly.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Yes, and if you don't get all of it off before you do the dev step, some particles stick in the emulsion and cause white spots on your scans.

[philslizzy]

So, it sounds like a bad idea.

[std]

Shouldn't be that bad - i have used only baking soda and it came almost completely.

Here is the recipe: http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/US_plugins_acrobat_en_motion_support_processing_h247_h2407.pdf

[cooltouch]

Films with remjet have a dark gray almost black emulsion color. If you look at the film in the photo, its base color is beige. So it doesn't appear to have remjet backing. Which means it can probably be developed in C-41 chemicals. Whether or not you can convince a photo lab that it's okay is another matter.

Remember the now defunct Seattle Film Works? They used to sell movie film remainders respooled, and offered their own processing plus replacement film cartridges. The early SFW stuff had the remjet backing, but their later stuff didn't. I have a roll of their later stuff, which has the beige emulsion.

[iangreenhalgh1]

On the Vision2 stocks I have, the emulsion is the typical beige/brown and the back side is black due to the remjet.