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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:42 pm Post subject: Pancake lenses on NEX |
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Pontus wrote:
Are there any MF pancake lenses out there that can still be considered pancakes with the adapter included? I have the Contax 45/2.8, CV 40/2, Hexanon 40/1.8 but I'm travelling right now so I can't really check them out. I can't understand why I haven't compared the lenses side by side yet... The Zuiko 40/2 has also been on my wishlist for a while... There are of course many other pancakes out there as well. I guess the PEN 38/2.8 with adapter must be one of the smallest combinations. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have tried these:
Pentacon 2.4/50 - good lens, but not as good as the 1.8/50 Pentacon
Konica Hexanon 1.8/40 - good lens but overrated, the least good of the Konica normals.
Minolta MD 2/45 - good lens, I preferred it to the Konica as it has smoother bokeh and a smoother transition from in focus to out of focus, colours are vivid too, but it's not as good as the Minolta 1.7/50
Yashica ML 2/50, small pancake, all four of these lenses are about the same size. This one is very sharp, probably the best of these four.
Because of the adapter, none of those makes a very small package, however.
M39 Russian lenses make a smaller package, I particularly like the Jupiter-8 2/50, makes a lovely small combo on the NEX and isa superb lens. The collapsible Industars are even smaller, they collapse most of the way when mounted on a NEX, you won't find anything that fits in the pocket better than one of these, due to the collapsible feature.
If you just want something small, pocketable yet high quality, look at a Samsung NX1000 or NX1100, IQ matches the 16mp NEX's, maybe surpasses it slightly, but the advantage is the excellent cheap, pancake lenses. The kit that has the small 20-50 zoom and the tiny 16mm pancake is a big bargain. There are also 20mm and 30mm pancakes, the 2/30 is a stunning lens and dirt cheap. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nikon GN have smallest profile from SLR lenses what I did try. RF lenses are usully my light choice, Nikkor 2,8cm , Orion-15 also a 28mm lens, Biogon 35mm etc _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:37 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Whoops, I forgot the Biogon (it's in my avatar) and the little Nikkor, both are superb, the Biogon is better of course, because little beats a Biogon. They make very small packages on the NEX.
Before people come running saying 'oh, non-retrofocal wides give you magenta shifts etc on the NEX'...
Yes, the Biogon on the NEX-3, can sometimes have a very slight magenta cast in the corners,but it's only on certain shots and unless it happens to fall on the sky part of an image, it's not noticeable. The 16mp NEX sensor they use now probably doesn't have this issue, but even with the old 14mp sensor, the issue is very slight. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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nukemall
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 96 Location: Blagoveschensk, Russia
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:40 am Post subject: |
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nukemall wrote:
True "pancakes" for Sony NEX - converted lenses from half-frame cameras Canon Demi, Yashica Half, Fujica Half etc. It's normal(not wideangle) 30-32mm f/2.8 - f/1.4 lenses.
Or something like this:
KMZ 28/2 lens from microfiche reading device fitted to the barrel of poor old Samyang's 28/2.8. _________________ My blog |
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convert1
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 100 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:05 am Post subject: |
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convert1 wrote:
Pontus wrote:
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I guess the PEN 38/2.8 with adapter must be one of the smallest combinations. |
Another lens (minotar 35mm f/2.8, MFD after modification 0.3m) might be interesting as well.
SLR lenses pancakes are not pancakes any more due to adapter size + lenses on NEX.
Olympus Pen 38mm f/2.8 on NEX 7
Minotar 35mm f/2.8 on NEX 7
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Interesting, I have played around with some lenses removed from old compacts, the one I want is the 40mm Sonnar. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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dan_
Joined: 05 Dec 2012 Posts: 1058 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
One of the most compact SLR lenses is the Olympus OM Zuiko 24mm f/2.8. And it is one of the best ever in it's focal length, too.
But, due to the adapter, can't be considered a real pancake on NEX. |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pancake lenses on NEX |
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scsambrook wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Are there any MF pancake lenses out there that can still be considered pancakes with the adapter included? |
A really thin combo will use a Leica-fitting rangefinder lens - the Voigtlander 35mm f2.5 screw mount is both compact and light, as well as relatively reasonably priced. Or maybe consider the Voigtlander 40mm f1.4 which is currently being offered at a reduced price by distributors in UK and USA. Not exactly cheap, but great value - and it's an excellent lens if you want high speed. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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tao
Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 241 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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tao wrote:
Don't know about NEX but on M4/3, the Pentax 110 24/2.8 at 20.75mm with adapter is significantly thinner than the Pen F 38/2.8 which is 23.7mm with adapter. It's more of a cupcake than a pancake though.
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
NEX with Industar-69 (L39 adapter) is quite thin too, only 1.3cm when screwed on adapter... thinner than retracted Industar 50 (I'm not talking about the inner part) :
It's one of my favorit lens, great for street photo. _________________ Pierre
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hi Burstmox. I have an I-69 too, tiny indeed. Can you tell me, did you modify yours in some way so it reaches infinity? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Yes, it's pretty simple to do. I'm usualy very bad at doing stuff with my hands, but I did it in 10 min. I think there are lot of tutorial on the net, which would explain better than me. To say fast, I just unscrewed the 3 side screws (to remove the focus ring). Inside, there is 2 screws to limit the close focus and infinity focus. Just unscrew them, and you'll have infinity (going deeper inside) and almost macro possibilities (I never tested to max, I fear to totaly unscrew the focus ring) . _________________ Pierre
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Most probably the Pen-f lenses are the smallest decent lenses - the Pentax A100 and Industar 69 are ok for experiments but not good as a all-around lens. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
I use an old lens from a broken Konica 35 rangefinder attached to a reversing ring. 38mm is fine for me. If I want wide angle I take 2 photos and join them in PP _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
I don't think I-69 is only experiment lens. Not saying that it's top notch quality, I think it does the job not bad at all. I used it today afternoon to do my lovely not interesting photos (straight from Nex's JPEG ) :
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