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david_b
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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: My Konica AR 50mm |
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david_b wrote:
Today I found a Konica Minolta AR 50mm f1.7 lens in my old lenses camera bag.
Some photos with it on Olympus OM-D:
Two close up:
Two some kind of portrait:
One street style or some kind with a big crop and nice coffe cup:
And one landscape:
Some kind of crop from the picture above:
Focus ring is very smooth, easy focus on OM-D, I only need some time to go throught the proces of focusing. So no actions with this lens and me 
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
Very nice shots. Looks like a great lens! |
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david_b
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david_b wrote:
Thank you.
Also a photo of lens:
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patrickh wrote:
Attila and Ian have been promoting these lenses for good reason. I enjoy the few I have
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asterinex
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asterinex wrote:
Nice pictures. This lens is very sharp stopped down . A keeper ! |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
... and camera damn fine too, lot better than earlier 4/3 m43, nice series as well.
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Excalibur wrote:
Hexanons are very good lenses on a film camera, but I find it difficult to see the difference between 50mm f1.7, 50mm f1.8 and 50mm f1.4 stopped down (only rarely use a lens WO), although I can see the 40mm is just not razor sharp like the 50mms.
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nurkov wrote:
nice pictures, but it's a konica with no minolta in there 
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| Hexanons are very good lenses on a film camera, but I find it difficult to see the difference between 50mm f1.7, 50mm f1.8 and 50mm f1.4 stopped down (only rarely use a lens WO), although I can see the 40mm is just not razor sharp like the 50mms. |
Not all the 1,7 version have the same rendering. The same in the 1,4 lenses. Take the old 1,7 with little letters and numbers at the front only, and see the images taken with it. Perhaps the best of all. IMHO. |
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Phenix jc
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Phenix jc wrote:
+1 An Hexanon (no Rokkor inside).
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| ...but I find it difficult to see the difference between 50mm f1.7, 50mm f1.8 and 50mm f1.4 stopped down (only rarely use a lens WO)... |
A general statement for many lenses and many brands.
Don't bother with a fast lens if you intend to use it stopped down
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
| Phenix jc wrote: |
+1 An Hexanon (no Rokkor inside).
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| ...but I find it difficult to see the difference between 50mm f1.7, 50mm f1.8 and 50mm f1.4 stopped down (only rarely use a lens WO)... |
A general statement for many lenses and many brands.
Don't bother with a fast lens if you intend to use it stopped down |
Well yes, I suppose 16X20" prints by a professional printer or examining negs or pos with a loupe would show a difference as the 50mm f1.7 is supposed to be top dog.
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anktonio
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anktonio wrote:
In 70s the Japanese almost took the physical limits of the design double gauss, regarding the focal standard. Each brand competing to offer the best in 50mm. The results touched perfection and Hexanon AR 50/1.7 is a good example. There may be better lenses at the time, but this will be very difficult to prove... or impossible if you use f/2.8.
I fear that the differences, if any, must be sought under each pixel
Happy shots, you have a great lens! |
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david_b
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david_b wrote:
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| nice pictures, but it's a konica with no minolta in there |
Where I found a Minolta?
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
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david_b
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david_b wrote:
I have a question about Hexanons.
How is Hexanon AR 1:3,5/28mm compared to this 50mm? Is it worth, let's say 40€? Is optical same/close/or not even close to 50mm?
I have lot of 50-58mm, 135 and 200mm manual lenses. I need something in wide angle, but on mFT everything is x2. A 28mm would be a better wolk around lens for landscape then 50mm.
Ok, I have "normal auto focus" lenses, but let's manual is more interesting.
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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glasslover wrote:
Hi!
DR.JUAN: Can you provide or point to pictures that show what you mean here? I'm confused. Or can someone else enlighten me please?
Thanks!
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| Not all the 1,7 version have the same rendering. The same in the 1,4 lenses. Take the old 1,7 with little letters and numbers at the front only, and see the images taken with it. Perhaps the best of all. IMHO. |
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:00 am Post subject: |
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RnR wrote:
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| ... and camera damn fine too, lot better than earlier 4/3 m43, nice series as well. |
Yes, the m43 camera's have really come of age. The next releases will even have focus peaking.
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| david_b wrote: |
I have a question about Hexanons.
How is Hexanon AR 1:3,5/28mm compared to this 50mm? Is it worth, let's say 40€? Is optical same/close/or not even close to 50mm?
I have lot of 50-58mm, 135 and 200mm manual lenses. I need something in wide angle, but on mFT everything is x2. A 28mm would be a better wolk around lens for landscape then 50mm.
Ok, I have "normal auto focus" lenses, but let's manual is more interesting. |
The Hexanon 28mm f3.5 is a very good lens on a film camera for landscapes and general photography, but wouldn't think as sharp as the Hexanon 50mm f1.7 but whether you can see the difference for normal results is debatable .......as for what it's worth for a digital camera? Well if it gets too expensive and is equal to the prices of Zuiko, Miinolta etc then someone would have to do some comparison shots for sharpness, bokeh and so on and then decide.
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david_b
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
Thank you excalibur. We will see how it is in few days. One 28mm in very good condition (I hope the seller didn't lied) is coming to me.
Till then I enjoy other leneses. Konica 50mm:
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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sammo wrote:
Nice shots from slovenian coast! |
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david_b
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
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| Nice shots from slovenian coast! |
Thank you / Hvala.
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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david_b
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
I'm waiting for adapter to test this 28mm.
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
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I'm waiting for adapter to test this 28mm.
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 How are you showing shots of the 50mm then as it's the same mount 
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david_b
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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david_b wrote:
[quote="Excalibur"]
| david_b wrote: |
I'm waiting for adapter to test this 28mm.
How are you showing shots of the 50mm then as it's the same mount |
I removed all unnecesary parts from 50mm and cuted away parts of mount, to fit 4/3 mount, then using 4/3 to m43 adapter. But I'm not gona do this to 28mm. This one is like new. No damage to lens.
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Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.4; Konica AR Hexanon 50mm f1.7; Konica AR Hexanon 28mm f3.5 2x; Konica AR Hexanon 135mm f2.5
M39 Jupiter 8 50mm f2 3x; Industar 50mm f3.5
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