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Advice please! Dad passed away and has many M42 lenses
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:16 am    Post subject: Advice please! Dad passed away and has many M42 lenses Reply with quote

Hey all,

My dad passed away and he had a lot of m42 lenses for his film Pentax. They are all in mint condition but I was wondering if it's worth selling these and for how much. Someone offered my $580 for all of these. All come with cases and caps. No dust or fungus. I was thinking maybe I could buy a micro 4/3 camera and adapter and use them but not sure. At least you guys can help tell me which ones to keep and which to sell Smile

1) Mamiya/sekor 135mm/2.8
2) Jupiter 21M 200mm/4.0
3) Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50mm/1.4
4) Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm/3.5
5) Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm/2.4
6) Pentacon 135mm 2.8
7)Mir 20mm 3.5
8. Tair 11A 135mm 2.8
9)Super-Multi_coated Takumar 135mm 2.5


Thanks for your help guys,

Matt


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Last edited by bernhardas on Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:52 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. It has been a few months since he passed and my mom wanted me to go through the stuff. I took them home with me and I am in no rush to sell. Wanted to get advice from you guys Smile


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Separate selling prices for that lot would be maybe 30% or so over what you were offered, with some luck as to condition, motivated buyers, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were you, i would keep them for shooting, it's not about your dad, but those are really good lenses,


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_x_vision wrote:
if i were you, i would keep them for shooting, it's not about your dad, but those are really good lenses,


Absolutely agree.

Renato


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bernhardas wrote:

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I do not own any of the lenses you have, but based on the comments in this forum they are valued by many people.

If getting rid of them fast is your first priority then sell them as a lot. Selling them individually will get you a considerable higher price, if you need the money. If photography is or could be a hobby of yours, it might indeed be good to keep them, and put them to good use, which can be a nice way way to remember a lost person (continuing their "legacy").

The lenses span 20 to 200 which is a good range, however with four 135er and two 35er there is some redundancy. If you decide to keep some lenses I would use all of them a lot, and see in your pictures if some of them offer qualities that the others do not have. Then you can decide which to keep and which to sell.

The answer is within yourself, give it some time and it will become clear to you what to do.


Wise words.

Buy a camera and adapter and use them!


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nutellaface my sincere condolences,

I am casual photographer and however tempting those lenses would be to sell, I personally would keep them especially if they are in excellent condition.

A quick fix on the sale money and the enjoyment of the sale will be short lived and you will regret your decision.

Please keep them, buy yourself a cheap second hand Pentax DSLR camera for instance K200D, in good condition with extras:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentax-K200D-DSLR-with-18-200-DC-lens-and-many-extras-/130898794192?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item1e7a2d16d0

I have the K-x, it takes AA batteries (as does the one above) so also get a couple of good quality packs of rechargeable batteries (again cheap off ebay) and a Pentax to M42 infinity adapter.

Keep the Pentax legacy alive and enjoy the pleasure of photography, you have plenty of quality lenses which will only go up in value as they are brought up by collectors/photographers. Who knows, your children may even enjoy the hobby with you and will want to join in.

Do not be tempted with financial offers no matter how good they seem as people like to strike a deal whilst others are possibly at a low point and off guard.

Best of luck and we all look forward to seeing your photographs on this forum.


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old man was no photographer, but we shared an interest in cars and mechanical things, we were both practical engineers and loved to tinker. Now, I have his old tools, and I love to use them. There are times when I might have a newer and better tool, but I still reach for the one he used. I have spanners that worked on long gone steam engines, and Battle of Britain Spitfires, he took a pride in his skills. I like to think that lives on through the tools.

Keep the lenses, enjoy them. Wink


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From personal experience I can certainly recommend you keep the Flektogon and Super Tak 50mm f1.4. The rest are probably pretty good too.

I would second the suggestion of using these on a NEX body - good for manual focus. Also, of the mirrorless options available, the 1.5 crop factor lets you use the lenses closer to their original aspect ratio than a micro 4/3 body. I would suggest buying a few M42 to NEX adaptors, so that you can change lenses more quickly. Changing screw mount lenses is a bit tedious!

Another option I have recently explored is buying an old Pentax Spotmatic body (I have a Spotmatic F). Make sure you get one with a working meter, and avoid later bodies which have a bayonet mount. They are lovely bits of kit and a joy to use.


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally there are some excellent lenses there, it looks like your dad enjoyed his hobby and those lenses probably took some very important family memorys.
The sentimental value is huge to me so i would keep them
Money is easy come easy go.
Memories are a lifetime


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy a Sony Nex and you will enjoy these nice manual lenses. Focus peaking on this system makes shooting a real pleasure.


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all: condolence.
Second: buy a Samsung NX body with an adapter ring and use all lenses. It could be the best way to bring the soul of your father with you.


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:
My old man was no photographer, but we shared an interest in cars and mechanical things, we were both practical engineers and loved to tinker. Now, I have his old tools, and I love to use them. There are times when I might have a newer and better tool, but I still reach for the one he used. I have spanners that worked on long gone steam engines, and Battle of Britain Spitfires, he took a pride in his skills. I like to think that lives on through the tools.

Keep the lenses, enjoy them. Wink


A lovely sentiment. I would feel the same given different circumstances.

Keep them. use them and sell those that you don't like. You have a great set, you only need one adapter and if MF is your thing you're saving a fortune not having to buy them.

Perhaps get a APSC sensor camera rather than Micro 4/3 simply because the wides will act wider due to the crop sensor size. Maybe even a DSLR like the Canon or Pentax (avoid Nikon if using M42 lenses you need an optical adapter)


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Condolences.

Your Dad had a very good taste in lenses, pretty much all of them are on my list of "to get" or "Yay! Got it!!"

If You do take pictures, then these are about as close to a "Dream starter set" as it's possible to get. Grab a Canon, NEX or Micro 4/3 body (NEX will allow for greater expansion later), and enjoy them.


PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your comments and advice. Think I will keep them and try them out...

Looking at either the new Canon 100D or maybe the Fuji E-X1...


PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nutellaface wrote:
Thank you all for your comments and advice. Think I will keep them and try them out...

Looking at either the new Canon 100D or maybe the Fuji E-X1...


I think you made the right choice. Just make sure you don't get a Nikon DSLR. Your nice M42 lenses won't reach infinity focus with Nikon. I'm a Nikon user and it frustrates me that I can only use F mount lenses.


PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Condolences.

I would not sell anything at the moment. 500 Dollars seem rather low for all that beautiful glass.
In fact, it will only increase in value wenn years pass. These are collectors items.
The Flektogon 35mm alone is more than 200 dollars.
(If you sell, I would sell them all seperately)

I would keep them and shoot with them.
it is a nice memory of your dad.


PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asterinex wrote:
Condolences.

I would not sell anything at the moment. 500 Dollars seem rather low for all that beautiful glass.
In fact, it will only increase in value wenn years pass. These are collectors items.
The Flektogon 35mm alone is more than 200 dollars.
(If you sell, I would sell them all seperately)

I would keep them and shoot with them.
it is a nice memory of your dad.


Thanks. In the process of shooting with a bunch of them and posting results. You can see a few of the threads I have started already Smile


PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad you chose to use those lenses. I for one have enjoyed looking at the very good images you've posted, and they are good images, from good lenses. That's a great legacy. Very Happy


PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really need the cash in order to get the camera to put some lenses on, then I would keep two or three and sell the others to fund the camera purchase.

The Takumar 50mm f1.4 is a fine lens, but you can find one (or one of it's brethren) any time you want to in the future. I know people here will disagree with me, but a relative newbie really isn't going to use FOUR different 135mm lenses. Check the Man/Auto switch on the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm f2.5. It has a part number stamped into the backside. If it is 43812, then THAT lens is a definite keeper.

I would also recommend keeping the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm/2.4. I've heard people say that there can be quality differences between them, but the one copy I have is a stunner image-wise and it will let you focus very close (macro). You'll have to get used to using preset lenses, but I think they are great fun.

Keep in mind that if you get a 4/3 camera then you are effectively doubling the focal length of the lenses (in terms of Field of View) from the smaller sensor. With an APS-C you are doing a 1.5x or 1.6x depending upon the brand you get. If you are considering an APS-C, do yourself a favor and consider Pentax DSLRs. They are especially fine with m42 lenses and metering with them is a snap.


PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheekygeek wrote:


The Takumar 50mm f1.4 is a fine lens, but you can find one (or one of it's brethren) any time you want to in the future. I know people here will disagree with me, but a relative newbie really isn't going to use FOUR different 135mm lenses. Check the Man/Auto switch on the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm f2.5. It has a part number stamped into the backside. If it is 43812, then THAT lens is a definite keeper.



It is indeed 43812. What makes it more special than the other Takumars and the other brand 135mm?


PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an improved optical design and is a highly rated lens. The earlier S-M-C (and even earlier Super Takumar) 135mm f2.5 was a 5 element, 4 group design. The version you have (called Version 2) was a 6 element, 6 group design which carried over to the first K-mount lenses. The optically identical PK version is reviewed here (with sample images in many of the reviews) http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-K-135mm-F2.5-Lens.html (You can't evaluate the review of the Takumar version 1 because they stupidly mix the Super Tak, and both versions of the S-M-C Taks - plus many people don't know which one they have because they don't know there is even a difference.) See also: http://kajiwara.weebly.com/takumar-13525-v2-66.html.

My condolences on the loss of your father. As others have said, he had refined taste in lenses. Camera bodies come and go (especially in the land of digital) but good lenses are forever.


PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:16 am    Post subject: Re: Advice please! Dad passed away and has many M42 lenses Reply with quote

nutellaface wrote:

1) Mamiya/sekor 135mm/2.8
2) Jupiter 21M 200mm/4.0
3) Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50mm/1.4
4) Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm/3.5
5) Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm/2.4
6) Pentacon 135mm 2.8
7)Mir 20mm 3.5
8. Tair 11A 135mm 2.8
9)Super-Multi_coated Takumar 135mm 2.5


Just read this thread. This is a very nice collection, so it is good you did not hurry. Your father seems to have cherry picked these, so I would not be surprised if the Pentacon is the one with 15 aperture blades. The easiest way to appraise their value is to look at acquiring them now - many of these will just be hard to find. Don't worry about having 4 different 135mm lenses - they are well picked.

These lenses are a good investment as their value can only go up now. They might have been challenging to use on SLRs with their lack of auto aperture, but they are very easy to use on mirrorless cameras, so demand will keep going up.


PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to part with some of them, please let me know. Cool