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ZENITAR-ME1 MC 50/1.7
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: ZENITAR-ME1 MC 50/1.7 Reply with quote
Never seen that before. Doubt it is worth it's money but may be there will be another opinions?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MC-ZENITAR-ME1-1-7-50-Unique-Russian-M42-SLR-DSLR-Cameras-Pentax-Praktica-Canon-/251247335750?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item3a7f821946

Is it really a rectangular diaphragm or some modification?



PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It really has a rectangular diaphragm. You can create your own bokeh using this way. http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_create_your_own_bokeh


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lol what a dreamer on the price made me spit my tea out


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I do hapen to have this lens and the original Zenit-18 camera that came with it. It`s a very funny looking lens ( because of the aperture ). Haven`t used it yet, but someday I will. Probably when the snow melt. I`m thinking about doing a big shootout with some of the rarer lenses that I have Smile


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see these gets listed on ebay once a while. I have the later MC 2.0 plastic version which is about sharper than anything else I have in the focal length. It is on par if not better than the Canon EF 1.4.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
drjs wrote:
I see these gets listed on ebay once a while. I have the later MC 2.0 plastic version which is about sharper than anything else I have in the focal length. It is on par if not better than the Canon EF 1.4.


Does the newer plastic version you talk about have this square aperture also?


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
uddhava wrote:
drjs wrote:
I see these gets listed on ebay once a while. I have the later MC 2.0 plastic version which is about sharper than anything else I have in the focal length. It is on par if not better than the Canon EF 1.4.


Does the newer plastic version you talk about have this square aperture also?


Nope. Regular rounded holes Smile Only some of the 1.7 has the squared holes. The 1.9 is another version which has rounded holes but isn't multi coated. Comparing to a mint conditioned helios 44-2 (serial number 00xxxxx) 58mm which I also own, the MC 2.0 is the best optically and more resistant to flares.

Of course the 44-2 is build like a tank and will likely last forever. The 2.0 is all plastic and has that Canon 1.8 mark II cheap look. I bought the MC 2.0 for $10 plus shipping so I am not complaining.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
drjs wrote:

Nope. Regular rounded holes Smile Only some of the 1.7 has the squared holes. The 1.9 is another version which has rounded holes but isn't multi coated. Comparing to a mint conditioned helios 44-2 (serial number 00xxxxx) 58mm which I also own, the MC 2.0 is the best optically and more resistant to flares.

Of course the 44-2 is build like a tank and will likely last forever. The 2.0 is all plastic and has that Canon 1.8 mark II cheap look. I bought the MC 2.0 for $10 plus shipping so I am not complaining.


I have a 1.9 version, but mine is multi-coated. Very sharp.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Those 1.7 models - the M and ME1, great lenses! Optically great lenses, I like my M more than most of my lenses for shooting almost everything. It is more sharper wide open than every fast 50 I have tried. And the render is so smooth and nice!
The ME1 is with better coatings compared to the M but personally to me the diaphragm is a big minus, it is two bladed and I can't realize why this lens is so expensive in ebay.
Another thing - the 1.7 is almost as fast as 1.4 lens, I have compared it with my 50 1.4 and it gives almost the same speed like it which is normal I think because it has very large lenses for a 1.7. I think that this is the best russian 50mm lens and if the russians have produced it with better coatings the price in the moment was going to be more like the price of the Rollei or CZ Planars or even more.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
simbon4o wrote:
Those 1.7 models - the M and ME1, great lenses! Optically great lenses, I like my M more than most of my lenses for shooting almost everything. It is more sharper wide open than every fast 50 I have tried. And the render is so smooth and nice!
The ME1 is with better coatings compared to the M but personally to me the diaphragm is a big minus, it is two bladed and I can't realize why this lens is so expensive in ebay.
Another thing - the 1.7 is almost as fast as 1.4 lens, I have compared it with my 50 1.4 and it gives almost the same speed like it which is normal I think because it has very large lenses for a 1.7. I think that this is the best russian 50mm lens and if the russians have produced it with better coatings the price in the moment was going to be more like the price of the Rollei or CZ Planars or even more.


The reason for it being expensive is that there is no other lens like it . It`s a unique piece of optical enginuity.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How does the zenitar-m 1.7/50 compare to helios 77?


PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aanything wrote:
How does the zenitar-m 1.7/50 compare to helios 77?


To me personally the zenitar is a more rougher lens. It`s a bit sharped and the bokeh is more serious. the Helios-77m-4 ir similar to helios 40-2. It has the same round, swirly and very exceptional boeh.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Helios 77 (all versions) is much softer than the Zenitar M 50 1.7, yes the Zenitar is not swirly in the bokeh but it is not that nervous like the helios. The render is very smooth even from 1.7 and actually Zenitar is around 1/3 stop faster than the Helios 77. About sharpness and lack of halo effect wide open Zenitar wins not only over the Helios 77, It wins over Takumars 50 1.4(not the 8 element version) which is quite a good result. At 1.7 the Zenitar is sharper than almost everything I have tried on this aperture or faster.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, thanks. It looks like I have to buy both Wink


PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Agree the zenitar 1.7 is a superb lens and i love mine prefer over takumar 1.4 and also many others in my collection it cant put my finger on it but it seems to never take a bad shot always something nice about them


PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The reason why I would go for the Zenitar is it`s sharpness and the A/M aperture switch. This helps a lot !


PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyway it looks way too overpriced for me
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