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rokk
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: Picked up a bunch of Lenses.. Soligor 200mm, Nikkor 24mm etc |
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rokk wrote:
As some of you might know, I've recently gotten into manual lenses on my Canon Eos DSLR.
I picked up a bunch of lenses and stuff from a recently passed away photographer, I paid what should equal ~145 dollars for the gear.
It was a shot in the dark since the seller was Not knowledgeable about cameras and lenses.
What I got for $145:
(another) Pentax M SMC 40/2.8 pancake, with some kind of adapter and a leather bag, UV-filter. Excellent condition.
Nikkor 24/2.8 Ai, The manual version, Good condition, with uv-filter and a banged up metal hood.
Nikkor AF 35-70 2.8 D, (OH GOD NO, AUTOFOCUS) In Good condition and a worn hood.
Meyer Görlitz 135/2.8, a bit dusty and some oil on the blades, but they move nicely without problems. Decent enough condition.
Helios 44-2, Good condition, aperture is 'stepless'... How's this compared to my 44M?
Nikon FM2-body in working condition.
And finally, a lens pretty unknown to me. Which is what my main question is directed at...
A Soligor 200/2.8 with Nikon Ai mount... Some internal dust and VERY oily aperture blades. They will not move smoothly past F4. Is it a problem to open this massive thing up and clean it a bit? Is it worth the hassle? Is it even any good? Front element is massive! I don't own a Nikon DSLR so I can't really test-shoot it.
Somebody need to tell me to stop picking up lenses...
PS. I let my friend keep the 100mm from the last post. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Congrats! I wish to see samples with all of them , many of them worth alone for this amount what you paid. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7796 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
A 200 / 2.8 has got to be worth taking a chance on, whoever made it.
I like Soligors, out of the 8 I've got there's one I don't like, a 35mm which is up against some very stiff competition.
Show us what the Soligor can do, I for one will be very interested to see the results. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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rokk
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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rokk wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Congrats! I wish to see samples with all of them , many of them worth alone for this amount what you paid. |
Yes, it was a gamble considering the state of the lenses were unknown. Still, the helios 44-2 is a bit worn down and a good deal softer than my 44M. And the Soligor 200 /2.8 is suffering from oily blades.
On the good side, I was really surprised to find a Nice Nikkor 35-70/2.8 in the mix.
Samples will come, i promise. But I do not own a Nikon DSLR, nor do I have an adapter. I'll see what I can do about that.
Any idea on cleaning the Soligor 200/2.8, or anything about the lens image quality?
Lloydy wrote: |
A 200 / 2.8 has got to be worth taking a chance on, whoever made it.
I like Soligors, out of the 8 I've got there's one I don't like, a 35mm which is up against some very stiff competition.
Show us what the Soligor can do, I for one will be very interested to see the results. |
Kind of the way I feel as well, it's a lot of light let in for a 200mm. Would be nice to know how made it. It feels decently Solid. Too bad I don't have anything to mount it too yet, and blades are more or less stuck at 2.8-4. I'll see if I can make a makeshift adaption tomorrow and take a few shots. Just don't expect anything but snow and darkness...
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Soligor 200 is pretty good, I had once.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/Soligor/soligor_200mm_f2_8/? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rokk
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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rokk wrote:
Oh, thank you! Looks good enough for me, I'll see about testshots tomorrow... makeshift adapter, here I come!
I'm less excited about taking it apart however, I got a feeling I might not be able to get it back together...
PS. Any guidelines or suggestions to keep in mind when taking samples? _________________ Bodies: Canon EOS 450D, Nikon FM2.
M42: Meyer Görlitz 135/3.5, Meyer Görlitz 135/2.8, Jupiter 37A, Helios 44M, Helios 44-2, Cosina Cosinon 50/1.8
Various: Soligor 200/2.8 (F), Pentax SMC 40/2.8 (PK), Soligor 135/2.5 (PK), Pentacon 28/2.8 GDR (PB), Nikkor 24/2.8 Ai (F).
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FotoPete
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 126
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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FotoPete wrote:
Wow what a great catch! Even the FM2, mechanical 4000th of a sec shutter speed is great.
As an fellow MF addict, I actaully approve of some of Nikon's early AF lenses for their push pull designs. Its much easier to use than two ring designs in manual. _________________ My Gear and Other Ramblings :: http://filmlensaddict.blogspot.ca/ |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Yep, I have one, it's pretty good optically and it looks beautiful too, great lacquered finish on these ones. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:37 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Super bargain you got there. Resale value is at least 5x what you paid _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
You should be pleased with the 24mm Nikkor. Looking forward to the samples |
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
Lena wrote: |
You should be pleased with the 24mm Nikkor. Looking forward to the samples |
Ditto... _________________ ===========
ACQUIRED OVER 30 YEARS:
Cameras: DSLR=Pentax istDS FILM=Pentax SP, SP-F, ESII, SP1000, KX, K2
Lenses : Pentax M42 = Super Multi Coated Takumars 50/1.4 55/1.8 100/4-BELLOWS 500/4.5 1000/8 135-600/6.7 Pentax PK= SMC Pentax-Ks K17/4-FF Fisheye K18/3.5 K20/4 K24/3.5 K28/3.5 K28/2 K35/3.5 K35/2 K50/1.2 K50/1.4K 50/4-MACROK 55/1.8 K85/1.8 K100/4-MACRO K100/4-BELLOWS K105/2.8 K120/2.8 K135/3.5 K135/2.5 K150/4 K200/4 K400/5.6 K45-125/4K 85-210/4.5 Pentax PKM = SMC Pentax-M M40/2.8-Pancake M50/1.4 M75-150/4 M80-200/4.5 Pentax PKA= SMC Pentax-A A15/3.5 A50/2.8-MACRO A28/2 A35/2 A50/1.4 A135/2.8 A200/4 A*300/4 A35-105/3.5 A24-50/4 A70-210/4 TAMRON AD2= SP80-200/2.8 SP180/2.5 TOKINA AT-X PK= ATX28-85/3.5-4.5 ATX35-70/2.8 ATX60-120/2.8 ATX80-200/2.8 ATX100-300/4 ATX90/2.5 MACRO KIRON-LESTER DINE PK = 105/2.8-MACRO VIVITAR PK = 135/2.8-MACRO 28-85/4 NOFLEXAR AUTOBELLOWS PK = 60/4 105/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
rokk wrote: |
Oh, thank you! Looks good enough for me, I'll see about testshots tomorrow... makeshift adapter, here I come!
I'm less excited about taking it apart however, I got a feeling I might not be able to get it back together...
PS. Any guidelines or suggestions to keep in mind when taking samples? |
Try to find nice subjects, if light is bad closer ones with structured surface like rocks, abandoned industrial machines , wooden house etc works better than long distance. Shoot most of them stopped down F5.6 F8 to get best performance and a few wide open to show wide open performance. If subject nice to B&W convert it also, try to show best what you can get from lenses , don't nail to weakness , even best lenses can be weak if we really want it to show. This forum is born to rescue manual focus gear , not opposite. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rokk
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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rokk wrote:
First of all, thank you for your support and source of information.
Samples will come, but delayed due to a small problem... I live in sweden, when I get off work at 1700 hours, It's PITCH BLACK outside now. It's like nighttime. So any samples will have to wait until the weekend, plus it's close to -27 degrees celcius in the mornings... ugh.
Attila wrote: |
rokk wrote: |
Oh, thank you! Looks good enough for me, I'll see about testshots tomorrow... makeshift adapter, here I come!
I'm less excited about taking it apart however, I got a feeling I might not be able to get it back together...
PS. Any guidelines or suggestions to keep in mind when taking samples? |
Try to find nice subjects, if light is bad closer ones with structured surface like rocks, abandoned industrial machines , wooden house etc works better than long distance. Shoot most of them stopped down F5.6 F8 to get best performance and a few wide open to show wide open performance. If subject nice to B&W convert it also, try to show best what you can get from lenses , don't nail to weakness , even best lenses can be weak if we really want it to show. This forum is born to rescue manual focus gear , not opposite. |
I'll see what i can do, tomorrow I'll go and get something to clean the blades with. Would 96% Isopropyl alcohol suffice?
Testshots are due Saturday when i can use the few sunny hours we have for shooting a few samples. The Nikon lenses will sealed against the eos body by a makeshift contraption until my adapter arrives.
And of course, most lenses have their quircks and charms. Just adapt the shooting according to the lens you use.
EDIT: Tired and can't spell or type and entire post without pressing submit instead of preview. _________________ Bodies: Canon EOS 450D, Nikon FM2.
M42: Meyer Görlitz 135/3.5, Meyer Görlitz 135/2.8, Jupiter 37A, Helios 44M, Helios 44-2, Cosina Cosinon 50/1.8
Various: Soligor 200/2.8 (F), Pentax SMC 40/2.8 (PK), Soligor 135/2.5 (PK), Pentacon 28/2.8 GDR (PB), Nikkor 24/2.8 Ai (F).
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No hurry we have time to wait important only you should enjoy what you do , that is cold ouch! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rokk
Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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rokk wrote:
My free weekend was a snowy, cold hell. I barely went outdoors to be honest. I did however take a few shots with my M42 Cosina 50 /1.8 which I picked up earlier this week. A cheap lens to say the least, but I'm surprised by the quality it's given so far (considering 5 SEK/€0.6 on a fleamarket).
Corners are soft wide open, but improves when stopping down.
Wide open @ f1.8
Random object on my way home. @ f4.5
I also cleaned out my 135/2.5 and 200/2.8 Soligors, got rid of some dust and oil on the blades. Now they at least move properly.
I actually managed to put it back together somehow. Same lens @ f4 using flash. (Yes I know, dirty floor)
Sorry for the random natures of the samples, but I was freezing my ass of and just took the camera with me to the store. It was getting a bit dark @ 1500 hours. _________________ Bodies: Canon EOS 450D, Nikon FM2.
M42: Meyer Görlitz 135/3.5, Meyer Görlitz 135/2.8, Jupiter 37A, Helios 44M, Helios 44-2, Cosina Cosinon 50/1.8
Various: Soligor 200/2.8 (F), Pentax SMC 40/2.8 (PK), Soligor 135/2.5 (PK), Pentacon 28/2.8 GDR (PB), Nikkor 24/2.8 Ai (F). |
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