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Volunteer
Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 74 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: 200 mm lens identification |
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Volunteer wrote:
Hey guys! I know there's always someone willing to help - would you care to guess which lens this could be? Two things I think I know - it's m42 and it's 200 mm.
_________________ This lens is good for portraits = This lens is as soft as Oprah's butt. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
That crackle finish plastic looks very Tamron-esque (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/old-lens/ct200.htm). Maximum Aperture? |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Nope. This is freshly identified as part of SUN made series: http://forum.mflenses.com/need-help-identifying-lens-dimension-135mm-f3-5-t53724,start,30.html
I think. _________________ ---------------------------------
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: 200 mm lens identification |
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WolverineX wrote:
Volunteer wrote: |
Hey guys! I know there's always someone willing to help - would you care to guess which lens this could be? Two things I think I know - it's m42 and it's 200 mm.
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što ne pitaš prodavača da ti pročita što piše oko prednjeg stakla?
(for english speaking crowd:" why don't you ask the seller to tell you what is written around the front glass") _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
Hi,
Looks alot like my hanimex. Its an OK preformer
http://forum.mflenses.com/human-library-hanimex-t39365.html
Last edited by KarelDH on Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:15 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Volunteer
Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 74 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Volunteer wrote:
(Jesam, kaže da je prepisao sve što piše na njemu, a to ne uključuje ime objektiva )
I did, he says he wrote everything down and that does not include the name of the lens.
Thanks. _________________ This lens is good for portraits = This lens is as soft as Oprah's butt. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Usually seller that is playing stupid is hiding something. _________________ ---------------------------------
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Usually if a seller tells me that, I then tell him exactly where to look on the lens for the details I want.If the seller still can't tell you, I would walk away from the sale.
I only do this if I really am interested in the lens... and I make the extra effort to find out what the lens is. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Volunteer
Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 74 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Volunteer wrote:
This is not an E-bay seller. He lives in my city. But I'd like to know what lens is it before wasting my and his precious time on meeting. I'd never buy it online like this. _________________ This lens is good for portraits = This lens is as soft as Oprah's butt. |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
It can have one of dozens names - Chinon, Prinzflex, Sunagor etc. It is not so important. This is well know lens and it is quite good. What is more important is its condition and you are going to discover it when you will meet the seller. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Often seen in UK as Chinon. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
dimitrygo wrote: |
It can have one of dozens names - Chinon, Prinzflex, Sunagor etc. It is not so important. This is well know lens and it is quite good. What is more important is its condition and you are going to discover it when you will meet the seller. |
It is important ! And if there is someone who is expert on Sun / Tomioka / Chinon then that would be you Dimitry.
From photos i assumed it's Auto Revuenon from this topic (and also many others) and thus possibly Sun produced:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=18544
Here found as Auto Chinon: http://www.njuskalo.hr/objektivi/objektiv-auto-chinon-200mm-f3.5-m42-oglas-1354411
Discussion also here: http://forum.mflenses.com/m42-chinon-200mm-f3-5-t27269,start,15.html
I really wonder your opinion? _________________ ---------------------------------
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
dimitrygo wrote: |
It can have one of dozens names - Chinon, Prinzflex, Sunagor etc. It is not so important. This is well know lens and it is quite good. What is more important is its condition and you are going to discover it when you will meet the seller. |
It is important ! And if there is someone who is expert on Sun / Tomioka / Chinon then that would be you Dimitry.
From photos i assumed it's Auto Revuenon from this topic (and also many others) and thus possibly Sun produced:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=18544
I really wonder your opinion? |
No, no, no. I am not an expert. Just was curious enough about that 100mm Soligor I have and was lucky to get those 135mm Soligors. Also without that big Soligor thread I wouldn't be able to make any conclusion.
Anyway I think it's Sun. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
It doesn't matter on which lenses you've made your degree . Indeed, that Soligor thread really is inspiring.
Here is a SUN silver line (it's interesting some lenses have arrow and others dot aperture pointer):
Ezüst ELICAR gyűjteményem / My Silver ELICAR collection #1 by PKatai, on Flickr
Close up on 200mm:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/recyclemouse/6143040448/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/www-gohip-de/4411335952/ _________________ ---------------------------------
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7794 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The 200mm on the right is exactly the same as my Prinzflex, and the same as Beroflex and Aragon. I have a couple of Sun Soligors, I'll have to see if there's any resemblance ? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
it's interesting some lenses have arrow and others dot aperture pointer
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Yes it's interesting they used different marks on the lenses even from the same series. Short focal length lenses almost always have that tiny rhombus you can find on your 28mm Soligor lenses. Other focal length lenses have different marks like arrow, dots and may be others as well.
And they also used zillions grip styles. |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
The 200mm on the right is exactly the same as my Prinzflex, and the same as Beroflex and Aragon. I have a couple of Sun Soligors, I'll have to see if there's any resemblance ? |
Do you have 200mm Soligor with s/n starting with 2 or 7? Anyway it would be interesting to hear your conclusion from the comparison. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7794 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
My Soligor is a chrome ear model with serial number 1678241 which seems to be regarded as Tokina. It's nothing like this silver Prinzflex at all. I wondered about small details such as engraving style being the same, but it's totally different physically. I have no idea about the optics. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
dimitrygo wrote: |
Pancolart wrote: |
dimitrygo wrote: |
It can have one of dozens names - Chinon, Prinzflex, Sunagor etc. It is not so important. This is well know lens and it is quite good. What is more important is its condition and you are going to discover it when you will meet the seller. |
It is important ! And if there is someone who is expert on Sun / Tomioka / Chinon then that would be you Dimitry.
From photos i assumed it's Auto Revuenon from this topic (and also many others) and thus possibly Sun produced:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=18544
I really wonder your opinion? |
No, no, no. I am not an expert. Just was curious enough about that 100mm Soligor I have and was lucky to get those 135mm Soligors. Also without that big Soligor thread I wouldn't be able to make any conclusion.
Anyway I think it's Sun. |
i've contacted the seller. he doesn't have a digital camera, so he made those photos with a webcam. anyway it's a auto revuenon 1:3,5 f=200 mm 62 fi No. 749414 _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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