Cross processing E6 in C41

[iangreenhalgh1]

I've been looking for examples of cross processing e6 slide film in c41 chemistry and seems all I can find is bloody awful photos, you know, this lomography crap where they ignore all aspects that make a picture worthwhile - composition, subject etc.

Has anyone got any examples of cross processing of 'proper' photos not lo-fi unartistic crap?

Just keen to see some proper examples to see what I think of the results.

[Lloydy]

I can't help, but I have to agree about the awful lomography crap.

[iangreenhalgh1]

I've already done one e6 roll in c41, but that was with the crappy room temp c41 kit I had, I've since got new chemistry and use 38C for development with vastly improved results. I didn't get wierd colours with my first cross process attempt, just a very vintage lower saturation look and a magenta cast:

[Lloydy]

That's a nice old fashioned look Ian, I think it works for some images.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Cheers.

Second roll I processed tonight I had a cockup with so most of the roll was no good, a couple of frames were salvagable but looks to me like cross processing is a bit of a waste of slide film as it doesn't look any better than a cheap c41 roll.


#1

#2

#3

[Attila]

May #1 is more vivid than C41, otherways right waste of good slide film.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Oh, I turned up the saturation in Photoshop, saturation was on the lower side, but maybe that was due to the crappy light.

[David]

Here's a link to some ECN-2 I did in C-41. Not a dissimilar concept.

https://picasaweb.google.com/102333270936007447976/4612K2

[iangreenhalgh1]

Cheers David. I might try that myself sometime, I have some ECN2 films.

[marty]

Hi, there.
I've found out there's a lot of variability in the results depending on various factors, such as lighting, subject, colors, contrast ... not to mention your taste and expectations. That said the best advice I think is to load a roll and snap the greatest range of subjects you can think of and possibly you'll find out what you like best. You don't say which film you're using and that's another important variable, even if I only used expired RVP50 I believe that every film stock will give a peculiar look to the photos.
#1:


Here we have almost natural colors.
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#2


Rather cyanish
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#3


Green
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#4


Now some architecture
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#5


Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#6


A tree ...
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#7


Some flowers, pardon the motion blur ...
Here is a field where cross-process excels if you like bold colors.

Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 50
Processs: C-41 1stop push

#8


Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 320
Processs: C-41 3stop push

#9


Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 320
Processs: C-41 3stop push

#10


People. That guy would be yours truly ...
Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 320
Processs: C-41 3stop push

#11


Film: Velvia RVP 50
EI: 320
Processs: C-41 3stop push

I hope that these can shed some light on what you're looking for.
These are RA-4 prints, there is some room to play with colors altering the filter packs. This is to say don't just stop at what is the look of a straight scan, and, maybe more important, don't stop looking for a "natural" look, sometimes a complete departure from "natural" is what makes a photograph unique.
The EI 320 was a mistake, I forgot to reset the meter ... I wasn't sure I could get something useful, but a few pictures turned out nicely.
I effectively metered at EI50 and developed +1 stop, I had a feeling that this would result in negatives with better shadow detail.

Cheers, M.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Cheers Marty, that's very useful and some very interesting effects you have obtained there, I much prefer to see this kind of proper analogue effect than to try to recreate the same thing digitally.

I particularly like #6 and #11, thanks for sharing.