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ForenSeil
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 Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: You favourite B/W film(/dev combo)? |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Hello!
What's your favourite B/W film?
Mine is after testing about 10 different films clearly TriX 400+Xtol 1+1 - it can be easily pushed up to ISO3200 and is so very versatile. It has some grain but a lot detail the extraordanary tonal range and exposure tollerance is the best I've ever seen. Not even comparable with the (mostly) Rollei stuff I used before.
I disliked the film with Rodinal bye the way  (much grain, lower tonal range)
And which is your fav. film or film/dev combo for general use?
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berraneck
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berraneck wrote:
Kodak TriX or PlusX, Atomal or Rodinal developer
btw TriX in Rodinal 1:50 is a nice combo, but the grain is enormous:)
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Nisseliten
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nisseliten wrote:
I almost exclusively shoot TriX 100 or 400, develop in D-76
I have not experimented that much with other film/developers, haven't found the need to. I like what the combo produces
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Modern motion picture stock - Kodak Vision2, Vision3, Fuji Eterna.
Fomadon LQR and LQN developers.
In all aspects far outperforms traditional BW emulsions. Far greater dynamic range so shadow and highlight details are much greater, grain is a tiny fraction of what you get with a traditional BW film, and you can push them several stops with only miniscule increases in grain.
Once I've used up the BW film I have I'll probably never buy anymore, just use the motion stock, it's so much better and only costs me 6-10 pence a roll.
I'm surprised people like Tri-X so much, I think TMAX is a lot better than it.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Fomapan + Foma LQN or LQR. Rodinal for any type of film.
I like Ian results, I will try it out myself too.
I don't like Ilford probably becuase I did develop only in Rodinal.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'm not an Ilford fan either, Pan F 50 always gave me more grain than you would want or expect from a 50 ISO film - EFKE 50 is much better imho. FP4 is okay but the tonal range isn't great.
Never tried the Delta films however.
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ForenSeil
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
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I'm surprised people like Tri-X so much, I think TMAX is a lot better than it. |
Tmax has much finer grain and higher resolution but I clearly prefer the TriX tones over all other films. Tmax looks often lifeless for me; bad tongues say even that it looks like a straight digital-to-B/W-conversion.
I came over the combo because I was fascinated by James Nachtwey (War Photographer doku) pic. I did not only like the pics themself, I was also fascinated by the tonal range of his great B/W images. After a short research I found out that he was using TriX 400 and D76, so I also had to try that (D76 is similar to Xtol)
Link with some lowres pics from Nachtwey
http://www.emptykingdom.com/main/photography/james-nachtwey/
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, TMAX is much better in grain and sharpness, I haven't shot any in great light conditions, only cloudy, so not sure about the tonality, it has plenty of dynamic range so you can manipulate it quite a bit to change the tonality. Been years since I shot any Tri-X, I was never very fond of it, mostly due to the grain. The options I used to have for 100-ish speed film were TMAX, Tri-X, Ilford FP4+ and Jessop's 100, I used to use the Jessop's most of the time, it was Efke orthochromatic and I liked it a lot, TMAX was the most expensive and I ued to pick that when I needed great sharpness.
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
Which developer did you use on TriX? I would bet that modern Xtol (or even D76 and HC-110) is better than Rodinal or similar for this film, especially on the grain site. A big plus for is that I can use it indoor, at partys, even with candle-light, because of the ISO3200.
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
D-76, Xtol wasn't available.
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
Bye the way, I stumpled of that nice pic: TriX400 with Rodinal at ISO 8000!!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/58491116@N06/7222350406/
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Nisseliten
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Nisseliten wrote:
Edit: I meant Tmax 100 and 400, not triX.. I always mix those two up
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
arista premium 400 (tri-x) and hp5 with hc-110, dilution H.
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BKSPicture
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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BKSPicture wrote:
All of todays film are very good.
The favorit must be the Kodak TriX becouse its very easy to press etc.
But for really cheap film I would say the Rollei RPX 100.
Have not tested the 400 but I would guess that its very good as well.
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erkie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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erkie wrote:
efke25 and Beutler A+B
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std
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:23 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Few years ago i bought Rollei R/3 on discount price of 0.99 EUR per 120 roll from Maco. It was very very good film and almost universal - you do not need to worry about film speed at all it has 3 layers with different emulsions and covers wide range from iso 50 to 1600. Unfortunately i cannot find it any more.
Next favorite one is Ilford Delta 100. Lays very flat and the tonal range is awesome. Unfortunately it is quite pricey For both films i use Rollei RHS developer.
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spoilerhead
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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spoilerhead wrote:
I shoot mostly Tri-X and develop it in Promicrol (Champion)
Also APX 100 in Rodinal is just lovely
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Oreste
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Oreste wrote:
neopan fuji 400 is best 400 speed B&W film for me. looks like Tri-X only better.
any good fine grain developer works good. |
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ellepi
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:46 am Post subject: |
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ellepi wrote:
Tri-X with HC110
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davidbrat wrote:
HP5+ with LC29 1+19. |
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