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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: Sonnar 2/50 1937 collapsible, uncoated |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Excellent little lens, very sharp, being uncoated it is low contrast and flares a bit but after fixing contrast in PP, results are very nice. I prefer my 1950s Jupiter-8s though as they are coated.
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And a stitch of 6 images, the fine detail in the full size version is superb.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Pretty good one, indeed. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I like the vintage look it has, a certain glow that later coated Sonnars/Jupiters don't have. Probably a very nice lens for portraits. Shame I don't have a yellow filter for it, would be interesting to shoot some BW film with a yellow filter. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
This glow is suspicious to me - maybe the glass is hazy from the inside.
You should get it cleaned. This Sonnar should be much better. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
std wrote: |
This glow is suspicious to me - maybe the glass is hazy from the inside.
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+1, I never had such an old lens but many uncoated and I've never seen that kind of hazy flare. Looks also a bit suspicious to me _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I know this "glow" from the early Leitz lenses.
There is it typical.
I don't know this Sonnar. So I can't tell id it's normal or not. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I don't think there's any haze, and the flare is due to the direction of the sun, in #6 it was just out of frame to the left, in #3 it's just out of the top of the frame, the only two where I wasn't facing in the direction of the sun are #2 and #4.
I deliberately pointed it in the direction of the sun to find out if it was coated or not, the other early Sonnar I had was coated but such a pale blue colour it was very hard to discern with the eye, this one I wasn't sure if I could see a pale blue colour or not so I found out by shooting it.
Haze would affect the sharpness and his lens is very sharp indeed, which you can't discern from web-sized samples. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
+1 this is normal from an un-coated lens coated and un-coated Sonnars were exists before war, Zeiss use coating from 1938.
I have both type of lens difference is very visible and my un-coated copy like this. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I thought that the old Sonnars were glow-free stopped down. I read somewhere (I think on artaphot.ch) that the first Sonnars (both 50/1.5 and 50/2) were very sensitive to decentering bye the way. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'll listen to Attila, who has actual experience of these lenses. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with this lens as the level of fine detail it captured was very high. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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