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saffersteve
Joined: 28 Jun 2011 Posts: 91 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: Neg Post about zooms got me thinking-Vivitar 35-70mm 2.8-3.8 |
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saffersteve wrote:
I always get the feeling that zooms get a bad rap.....in the posts.
So I dug out a few zooms.......some are bad....but some not.
The Series 1 Vivitar 70-210mm I put to one side......this already has a good name.
The smaller 35-70 stepped up to the plate. I think it is ok..on the nex-5n
F2.8 35mm range.
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Apart from a touch of under-exposure I'd say you've proved a point well. I have the 70-210 and have thought about the 35-70, shots like this push me further towards buying one.
Thanks for the example. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
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Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
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Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
In my tests:- some zooms, at their sweet spots and stopped down, can equal an average prime from well known makes i.e. you cannot see a difference in sharpness in a normal sized print. And would also add some zooms give a nice bokeh as well. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
No offense but I'm not convinced by the image you have posted.
Even average 35mm primes will do it better. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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saffersteve
Joined: 28 Jun 2011 Posts: 91 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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saffersteve wrote:
Hi
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that zooms are equal or better than primes.
(the 30+ primes in my collection are proof which is best)
Just that they get a negitive almost don't pick one up they a waste reputation and I would like to give this lens a bit of limelight.
Well done manufacturer for Vivitar. Thank you for this lens.
They are what they are a compromise in optics to get different focal lengths.
They are fun. Give IMHO a good picture and teach users how to frame without moving.
And for the price welll I'll just say value for money....
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I agree. Some zoom lenses are really good. I especially like several Tamron zooms and that Vivitar that you mention is also a really good lens - and pretty fast! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7796 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The wide Vivitar S1's are good, and I believe under rated. I have a 24-48 3.8 which is a terrific performer on my Pentax K10.
I keep looking at this 35-70 when I see it for sale, but I resist because I have it pretty much covered by the 24-48 and the 70-210. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I tried lots of zooms and most were not good, but some were very good.
All the Konica zooms I have are very good indeed, as good as primes from lesser makers, in fact, they are better than a lot of cheap third party primes.
MC Rolleinar 4/80-200 was very good, it's a Mamiya
Soligor 70-150 made by Tamron was very good too, at f8 and distance, it was very sharp.
Panagor (Kiron) 70-150 was also very good, it's also sold as a Yashica ML, Nikon E and others.
But there were many that were bad, distortion, CA, bad bokeh, softness, low contrast, often all present at same time. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Webwalker
Joined: 09 Jan 2012 Posts: 96 Location: Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
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Webwalker wrote:
Speaking about zoom vs prime, I recently read a discussion of Sony NEX users about Minolta MD 35-70mm f/3,5. They say it shows very good results. Here copied comparison with primes. (OKC 35/2 is a cinecamera lens)
It is simple resolution test. Left upper corner.
_________________ Sony SLT A58
MF: Mir-1 silver GP Brussels, Zenitar-M 1.7/50, Helios 44 silver, Indi 50-2, Jupiter 38 4/75, MC CZJ Biometar 2.8/80, Jupiter 11 crome, MC Tamron SP 28-80mm f/3.5-4.2, Vivitar 75-205 mm f/3.8
AF: Minolta AF 50mm 1.7, mini beercan, beercan, secret handshake, Sigma Tele Converter X1.4 |
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