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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: Fish traps show (NEX-7 & Sony 50mm 1.8) |
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Jesito wrote:
Today has been my first holiday's day.
Prior to travelling, a few days to relax.
In the afternoon my wife and me went walking to the village center and found a nice handcraftship fair.
People baking artisan bread, other selling homemade cheese and sausages, etc.
In one booth there was a show about the history of the fish traps used in the village along the years.
Some shots of the show:
The bread makers:
The sausages:
The sweets and candies:
A nice day to walk, not sunny at all:
Regards.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
what a pity no sun  nice series but without good light IQ just not good.
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
That is a good start of the holidays!
Enjoy your free time. |
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| what a pity no sun nice series but without good light IQ just not good. |
Thanks, Attila, today sun is shining at its top 
But the fair is gone...
Jes.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| Minolfan wrote: |
That is a good start of the holidays!
Enjoy your free time. |
Thanks Minolfan!
Jes.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
A lovely series and it looks like a nice place to holiday.I love the last image with the modern crane and the old buildings...it is so out of place.
How long have you had the Nex 7? ...and I look forward to seeing more images from your holiday... 
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peterqd wrote:
Lovely interesting pics Jes. With places like that where you live, why would you want to go on holiday anywhere else? 
What's your impression of the NEX-7?
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poilu wrote:
nice fair series, interesting and colorful
seems you find the ultimate body ( until next year  )
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| mo wrote: |
A lovely series and it looks like a nice place to holiday.I love the last image with the modern crane and the old buildings...it is so out of place.
How long have you had the Nex 7? ...and I look forward to seeing more images from your holiday... |
Hi Mo, thanks for your comment. Actually is where I live, but unfortunately I have to conmute every day to Barcelona for work, so I practically don't enjoy the place except for the weekends and the holidays. Now in crisis time I can spend some days here like if I were a visitor .
@Mo and Peter:
I got the NEX-7 a few days ago. I replaced iit by my NEX-5 (an impulse), a friend of mine didn't like his NEX-7 and wanted to sell to replace by a Fuji XPRO-1, so I took the opportunity and got it cheap. My NEX-5 went cheaply and quickly to another colleague
So far I'm not very impressed with the NEX-7. It behaves very much like the NEX-5 as per manual lenses is related. Also the menues and the LCD screen, the size and handling ar not far from the NEX-5. The EVF is a plus, I was using a Hoodman to be able to look at the screen on brigh days, this one is much more confortable. The two wheels at the top right are convenient but my right thumb trends to make them move inexpectedly.
On the sensor size and quality is where I find an improvement: those 24Mpix are good to have unlimitted options to crop. In my oopinion, the RAW output is far better than the one at the NEX-5, I can't see the quick degradation I noticed when manipulating them with LightRoom (in the NEX-5 I always had to pass a quite strong noise reduction step).
I got it with the 50mm 1.8 Sony AF lens, that seems to be not bad.
I have to try the cam extensively, (specially with MF lenses) yet. A nice oppotunity having holidays now
Jes.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
Lovely interesting pics Jes. With places like that where you live, why would you want to go on holiday anywhere else?
What's your impression of the NEX-7? |
That's right Peter, living here is like having won the lottery
Anyway I like to see different places, this year we'll spend a few days around Lyon (my son has to be there the 24th of July to pick the new flat for the next year at the INSA), so we'll take him there by car and will go to visit the area.
(Who knows?. If my son finds a girlfriend there and ends working and living in France, maybe we retire there as well ).
Jes.
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Hi Jes,
Thanks for your opinion on the Nex 7.Peter allowed me to try his Nex 7 while he was here (I was too scared to touch it... ).I was very impressed with the size of the camera itself, I was thinking it was tiny.The lcd display intimidated me a little with the overwhelming info that was displayed on it.
You are very lucky to live there! 
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An interesting series 
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That's a lovely series of images, you've captured the essence of the local area through the fair. I enjoyed looking at the set.
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peterqd wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
So far I'm not very impressed with the NEX-7. It behaves very much like the NEX-5 as per manual lenses is related. Also the menues and the LCD screen, the size and handling ar not far from the NEX-5. The EVF is a plus, I was using a Hoodman to be able to look at the screen on brigh days, this one is much more confortable. The two wheels at the top right are convenient but my right thumb trends to make them move inexpectedly.
On the sensor size and quality is where I find an improvement: those 24Mpix are good to have unlimitted options to crop. In my oopinion, the RAW output is far better than the one at the NEX-5, I can't see the quick degradation I noticed when manipulating them with LightRoom (in the NEX-5 I always had to pass a quite strong noise reduction step).
I got it with the 50mm 1.8 Sony AF lens, that seems to be not bad.
I have to try the cam extensively, (specially with MF lenses) yet. A nice oppotunity having holidays now
Jes. |
Hi Jes, I felt the same for the first few days but I'm loving the camera now and I bet you will too. I don't have a problem with the two dial wheels, but I keep inadvertantly pressing the video button - I wish there was a way to disable it, maybe there is but I haven't found it yet. I haven't got into customising the functions on the various buttons yet, I'm hoping Carsten might be able to help when he has a spare moment!
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Jesito,
What a funny avatar you have now! |
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Jesito wrote:
| mo wrote: |
Hi Jes,
Thanks for your opinion on the Nex 7.Peter allowed me to try his Nex 7 while he was here (I was too scared to touch it... ).I was very impressed with the size of the camera itself, I was thinking it was tiny.The lcd display intimidated me a little with the overwhelming info that was displayed on it. |
Yes, the small body does contain a powerful soul
I got also impressed for such big amount of info, but if you spend some time learning what they mean, at the end all makes sense... (And if it doesn¡t, you can always switch it off ).
| mo wrote: |
| You are very lucky to live there! |
Thanks, I'm grateful to life for it. Hope you can come here sometime
| SonicScot wrote: |
| An interesting series |
Glad you like it, Gary.
Thanks for commenting!
| Lloydy wrote: |
| That's a lovely series of images, you've captured the essence of the local area through the fair. I enjoyed looking at the set. |
Thanks for commenting, Lloydy!. Glad you enjoyed them, this is a very busy vacation area, all the time we have things like these for visitors enjoyement...
| peterqd wrote: |
Hi Jes, I felt the same for the first few days but I'm loving the camera now and I bet you will too. I don't have a problem with the two dial wheels, but I keep inadvertantly pressing the video button - I wish there was a way to disable it, maybe there is but I haven't found it yet. I haven't got into customising the functions on the various buttons yet, I'm hoping Carsten might be able to help when he has a spare moment! |
Hi Peter,
Day by day I have less fear to this small alien. I'll try to read the manual these days... (what a unusual activity )
I tried the 300mm f5.6 Tokina (that I don't consider an outstanding lens) and the results really surprised me: some 3D effect, excellent colouring, good sharpness...
This is a sample:
I look forward for your samples and your reports from the aussies
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Jesito,
What a funny avatar you have now! |
Thanks, Minolfan, glad you like it. It's the rewind knob from a Edixa Reflex camera that I'm just trying. As soon as I saw it, it reminded me the funny face emoticon
And it was time to replace the old avatar...
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DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
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Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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