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Laurence
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 Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: Zodiak - Trying to Dial It In - New Test Shot - Better! |
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Laurence wrote:
Still not giving up on the Zodiak, although some of the first images were horrendous.
So, bear in mind that this is not a beauty contest!  Just trying different focal distances,
subjects, environment, etc.
I was nearly touching the foreground flowers, no more than a few inches away.
I didn't even write down the usual details, it was just a snapshot.
Will scan others.
Almost right on top of the main Poppy. Might have oversharpened a little, but at least getting a feel for what images
from this lens might look like, and maybe where it might be at its best for type of shooting.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:12 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That's nice Larry, great use of the distortion. Some PP and that could be a great shot I think.
What's the issue you're having with your Zodiak? Attila has shown me some stunning shots with his, if your copy is less than stellar, you might consider sending it to a technician for overhaul, sometimes these Russian lenses are poorly assembled and a thorough overhaul can transform their performance.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
That's nice Larry, great use of the distortion. Some PP and that could be a great shot I think.
What's the issue you're having with your Zodiak? Attila has shown me some stunning shots with his, if your copy is less than stellar, you might consider sending it to a technician for overhaul, sometimes these Russian lenses are poorly assembled and a thorough overhaul can transform their performance. |
Thanks ian! In another thread I described the possible problems with my Zodiak. Only yesterday did I decide
to shake the lens, and I could hear what sounded like glass rattling around! 
I'm just about set to send to moleman (from this forum) for a bit of cleaning and anything else he might feel would
do the lens some good.
Just getting some shots now to see how it might do as a 'fisheye', landscaper, portrait, etc. Just snapshots for now, not
looking for stunning scenery or anything like that. 
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Look forward to more shots from it when you get it looked over, it's one of the lenses I really wish I had.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
As I open more developed transparencies, I'm finding that the Zodiak is
acceptably sharp on some of them. I still have hopes for this lens.
This is a 'raw' image straight from the lens and scanner. A little bit of
USM will sharpen this up. Not all that bad, really.
Just Some Rocks
Pentax 645
Zodiak-8 30/3.5
1/125th at f:4
Provia
Unsharp Mask applied to center area.
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:30 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I like that rocks shot. There's a lot of texture there that better sharpening algorithims (adobe still hasn't come up with a good one imho) would really bring out.
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Hi Larry, some ideas on "getting your rocks off"
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
By the way, either I am stupid or the uploading of pics could be a lot easier,how do you upload without pictures sticking together or is there a way to place them in post by moving them around? I reiterate, I probably am, just stupid. |
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
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Hi Larry, some ideas on "getting your rocks off"
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Is this what you want ? Quote this post to have a look at the text formatting and then I'll remove the post.
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Hi John,Yup that is what I would like to do and much appreciate your concern in alleviating my stupid syndrome. Regards |
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
He only missed a single carriage return, easily done.
I liked that Dogwood pic so much I had to have a go at some PP:
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Really nice one Ian,and Duh, missed the carriage return trick,thanks a bunch.kryss |
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
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He only missed a single carriage return, hardly necessary to correct him.  |
What's the problem ? I was responding to a question ...
...how do you upload without pictures sticking together or is there a way to place them in post by moving them around?
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I misread the post, hence I edited my post. Don't get yer knickers in a knot.
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| I misread the post... |
Easily done.
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| Don't get yer knickers in a knot. |
I'll try not to.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I am AMAZED at the unique variations you guys can make with the original images.
THIS is what it's all about, at least for me. When we allow editing of images, it's a big win, because
it is basically a bunch of photographers showing what is in their minds for editing.  Very cool.
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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kryss
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Morning Larry, trust you are OK with pp'ing your pics although some members don't agree with pp, prefer as shot, oh well welcome to 21st century.
I still shoot a lot of film,35mm 6x6 and 6x7. I sold my Linhof 4x5 lenses and massive tripod. Too old to lug around and no longer have my studio.
Good luck with replacing your camera, AX and hassy Xpan seem a bit steep in price. I find my Konica Omega c/w 90mm & 180mm provide superb
shots plus super neg that doesn't need any cropping or waste of space. Anyhow, keep shooting and have fun.
Regards kryss
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Laurence
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Hey kryss: A unique perspective on the red poppy. No doubt this was heavily sharpened, and
I can see what you are possibly going for is texture. Not bad, but your others are better. But
again, that's what it's all about.
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
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| By the way, either I am stupid or the uploading of pics could be a lot easier,how do you upload without pictures sticking together or is there a way to place them in post by moving them around? I reiterate, I probably am, just stupid. |
I really doubt that you are stupid! The images are certainly ok as you presented them. No one
said you need a space between them. I don't think we are that formal in the MFLenses forum . 
After all, they are all showing the full image.
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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peterqd
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:43 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
| kryss wrote: |
By the way, either I am stupid or the uploading of pics could be a lot easier,how do you upload without pictures
sticking together or is there a way to place them in post by moving them around? I reiterate, I probably am, just stupid. |
Hi kryss, I edited your posts. You need to insert a carriage return between text and pictures, and between pictures too.
I always enter one after each pic is uploaded. Also spaces between words and capital letters at the beginning of a sentence
help reading as well. If you're using a phone I can understand the difficulty.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I like Larry's original shot of the poppy the best. I'm not keen on the edit done to it. However, Ian's edit of the Dogwood is an improvement as the original lacked contrast.
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kryss
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Thank you Peter. |
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