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ForenSeil
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: New Leica M7 0.72 for 530$? |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I can get a new unused Leica M7 0.72 for 530$ (+maybe 19% toll duty) so about 410-510€ effectivly depends on toll and actual currency exchange rate.
Sounds cheap for a modern Leica. Is that a good price? Or is it to good to be true?
How good is the Leica M7 - is there something to know about her? What's the difference between the 0.85 version? Is it only the size of the viewfinder?
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rbelyell wrote:
sorry i cant directly help, but i can recommend joining the
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
It seems to be a fake camera etc.
I checked the other offers of the seller. He has also a Leica M9 with Summicron 35/1.4 for less than 600$ 
http://www.aliexpress.com/supplier-fm/wholesale-products/214154285-productlist.html
EDIT: I asked the seller:
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Soren(2012-5-15 18:38:10)
Hello.
Are these prices real or is there a catch I didn't see?
Regards
xiangyang lv(2012-05-15 09:38:35)
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Soren(2012-5-15 18:48:36)
The prices for an Leica M9 in your shop are more than 10 times lower than here in Germany. That sounds a little too good to be true. Did I miss something or is there an error? Is the camera a fake etc.?
xiangyang lv(2012-05-15 09:48:53)
copy thing
Soren(2012-5-15 18:55:21)
Sorry what does it mean "copy thing"? Are the cameras not original?
xiangyang lv(2012-05-15 09:55:34)
no orginal |
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Of course it's a scam, he has S2 for 543USD and M9 for 570USD.
Be interesting to see if you got anything for the money, you most certainly would get a Leica.
Why do you want a Leica when you have a Contax G1? Makes no sense.
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
I wan't to swap my G1 system towards a Leica M system because I prefer manual fokus and I wan't to buy a Leica M8.2 or M9 in the future
I asked the seller if the M7 fake is working. He said that it's good and fully working with original M lenses.
Maybe it's an 1:1 clone  that would cool
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
570USD is a lot to gamble to find out.
No way is it a 1:1 clone, where would they get the sensor?
More likely it is a plastic body that looks like an M9 with some cheap electronics in it, surely won't have a FF sensor, probably not even a M4/3 or APS-C one.
Working with M lenses probably just means it can mount them.
The Chinese make knockoffs of many things, the iphone was a classic example but the copies were nothing like the original in functionality or electronics, just looked like an iphone externally.
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
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570USD is a lot to gamble to find out.
No way is it a 1:1 clone, where would they get the sensor?
More likely it is a plastic body that looks like an M9 with some cheap electronics in it, surely won't have a FF sensor, probably not even a M4/3 or APS-C one.
Working with M lenses probably just means it can mount them.
The Chinese make knockoffs of many things, the iphone was a classic example but the copies were nothing like the original in functionality or electronics, just looked like an iphone externally. |
Yes 570$ is a really lot money for gambling.
I only asked about the M7 (analog) not the M9 - so there should be no sensor issue 
Maybe the M9 copy is also analog.
He said it's an fully working 1:1 copy. I didn't asked for RF-coupling but for such a lot money I think that should be appropriate.
Anyway I won't buy it. Too much risk for me
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I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Someone must have tried one of these copies, try to find a review.
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x.z.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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x.z. wrote:
The price itself tells the truth. It cant be a real M7.
But you can hardly call it scam since the seller didn't deny it. "copy thing" "no original" means this cam is just a replica, not authentic. Probably somehow bad English.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
scam, he will send nothing ... I saw it too.
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