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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: Oberon 11K MC 200 f2.8 => Suggest you to Avoid. |
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Smoli4 wrote:
had the luck to see this lens on the market today, not much info on the web about it, only every place they find they label it as rare but if you want one it not a problem to get.
the copy i've held and took a few sample shots with, was mechanically malfunctioned aperture control didnt work, and the lens could not physically turn all the way to infinity, you couldnt turn the focus after it was about 5 meters.
but glass-wise and after examining the screws on the lens, i do no think the lens was disassembled at least not optically.
well results made me not buy it. alot of CA but pretty sharp. the man wanted 40 euro, in our part of the world thats too much for a lens that performs like it did and on top is in need for a good repair.
wanted to share the samples, i took in a rush, and if for some reason you want this lens, pm me, and ill get it for ya.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
One of the never heard lens by me thank you for sharing it! _________________ -------------------------------
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
np, its funny it is called "Oberon" it probably stands for Aberrations
for this thread, this is how it looks:
it features strong purple and green coatings. like many russian MC's
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mdarnton
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: |
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mdarnton wrote:
Rare means not often seen, but that doesn't mean 'desirable'. The pix remind me of my late-unlamented 200/3 Series 1 Vivitar, a lens with a reputation I could never understand, based on the sample I owned. _________________ small formats: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:58 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
mdarnton wrote: |
Rare means not often seen, but that doesn't mean 'desirable'. The pix remind me of my late-unlamented 200/3 Series 1 Vivitar, a lens with a reputation I could never understand, based on the sample I owned. |
I had the same experience with a Vivitar Series 1 2.3/135, supposed to be a great lens but the copy I had was bloody awful, one of the worst lenses I have ever come across.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I think QC from most Russian lens in 1990's is not that good. Despite the poor QC, the MC Rubinar made by LZOS are quiet sharp and with high contrast when compare to third part Japanese lens. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
A 200mm with f/2.8 is not easy to calculate! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
A 200mm with f/2.8 is not easy to calculate! |
yupp, i think that why this lens wasnt mass produced.
calvin83 wrote: |
I think QC from most Russian lens in 1990's is not that good. Despite the poor QC, the MC Rubinar made by LZOS are quiet sharp and with high contrast when compare to third part Japanese lens. |
ofc you are rigth as it is a known fact, yet i found ( and as you say about the rubinar ) that it is not the case in every lens, or more accurately with every lens maker... some russian/CCCP plants became horribly low quality near the end of CCCP and after that, but other places didnt change much, maybe the glass changed - sure... but not much else.
i think this case i all about sloppy design and not so much about QC and that is the reason it wasnt mass produced. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3704 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I was speculating this is Frankenstein lens but it's for real. Here one for sale: Click here to see on Ebay
Mentioned here & photo: http://www.xalmaz.narod.ru/lensese.htm
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