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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
What do you think would be the smallest pocket camera with a sharp 28mm or wider lens? Strictly film camera, of course 
I'm looking for a take-everywhere camera. I really like the Rollei 35B, but at 40mm the lens is not wide enough. |
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Attila wrote:
Fed-2,Zorki-C +Orion-15 (28mm lens)
Bessa L +15mm Heliar |
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Xpres
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Xpres wrote:
My favourite 'pocket' cameras are the Ricoh GR1 and Olympus MjuII... although that's 35mm isn't it... The Ricoh then...
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ricoh GR1 series, all had a 28mm f2.8 lens, retractable, built-in lens cover. Dang, Xpres beat me
to it!
Let's see how you style in town with a Bessa L and Heliar jammed in your pocket.  |
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Nesster wrote:
Not extremely small, but something like this?
chinon pocket dual AF-P by Nesster, on Flickr
There was a vogue of dual focal length compacts, before the zooms took over, where often the wide is 28mm. I'm not familiar with all the different models possible so I don't know which would be the smallest of these.
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
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Fed-2,Zorki-C +Orion-15 (28mm lens)
Bessa L +15mm Heliar |
Too big and Bessa L expensive  |
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
GR1 looks sweet  It's now on my "possible" list |
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
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Not extremely small, but something like this?
chinon pocket dual AF-P by Nesster, on Flickr
There was a vogue of dual focal length compacts, before the zooms took over, where often the wide is 28mm. I'm not familiar with all the different models possible so I don't know which would be the smallest of these. |
What does it perform like? |
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Nesster wrote:
Not too bad - I like the 'panorama' mode... I seem to recall seeing Minolta, Canon etc dual focal length compacts as well
GROM, Carmine st, Chinon Dual-Af-P by Nesster, on Flickr
Cadillac, rear view by Nesster, on Flickr
BAR by Nesster, on Flickr
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Crikey, the IQ is really good  I'm not sure why I'm surprised, but I am - pleasantly so. I'll add it to the "possibles" list. Thanks for the examples |
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Smallest pocket camera with 28mm |
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Sevo wrote:
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What do you think would be the smallest pocket camera with a sharp 28mm or wider lens? Strictly film camera, of course
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Widest must be the 21mm Ricoh GR21. The Ricoh R1 (GR1 predecessor) had a 24mm panoramic mode. My favourite in the range would be the Fuji Zoom Date f2.8 (a.k.a. Silvi), which has a 2.8/24-5.6/50 zoom. Past that there are quite a few 28mm (or 28mm-whatever zoom) compacts.
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kttomi wrote:
Olympus XA4
http://www.cameraquest.com/xa4.htm
Fujifilm DL Super Mini / Tiara
http://www.troeszter.net/SuperMiniPage.html
Nikon AF600
http://www.nicovandijk.net/compact.htm
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Thanks chaps, I've set some "saved searches" in my fleabay and will see which of the suggestions crops up  |
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scsambrook wrote:
Don't forget the Fuji DL Zoom - 28 to 50mm, very sharp at the wide end and not bad at the longer. I managed to break mine a while ago, which was a pity. Theres also a later version going from 24 to 50. I have one somewhere . . . stored safely somewhere in the house!
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
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| Don't forget the Fuji DL Zoom - 28 to 50mm, very sharp at the wide end and not bad at the longer. I managed to break mine a while ago, which was a pity. Theres also a later version going from 24 to 50. I have one somewhere . . . stored safely somewhere in the house! |
You need to be careful of safe places |
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Katastrofo wrote:
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| Don't forget the Fuji DL Zoom - 28 to 50mm, very sharp at the wide end and not bad at the longer. I managed to break mine a while ago, which was a pity. Theres also a later version going from 24 to 50. I have one somewhere . . . stored safely somewhere in the house! |
I've yet to finish the roll, but hope to see some good results. Zoom goes from 28-56mm:
Also called the Tiara in EevrOpah.  |
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scsambrook wrote:
Yes- that's the one. Great camera.
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Minolfan wrote:
However Nikon Lite touch Zoom 70WS has 28 - 70mm AF (5.6 - 10) is an option I would prefer the guess focusing Olympus XA4 (28mm 3.5) for most applications.
Other zoom with more features then the Nikon: Minolta 70W (28 - 70 AF, 3.5 - 8.4).
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dof wrote:
Nikon Lite Touch |
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
Some more to choose:
http://corsopolaris.net/supercameras/35mmwide/wide3.html |
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Smallest pocket camera with 28mm |
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johnnyh4 wrote:
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What do you think would be the smallest pocket camera with a sharp 28mm or wider lens? Strictly film camera, of course
I'm looking for a take-everywhere camera. I really like the Rollei 35B, but at 40mm the lens is not wide enough. |
+1 about liking the Rollei 35; the mechanical parts will remain usable/repairable long after many electronics-based cameras have expired
Not the smallest, but for 28mm I like the Olympus XA4.
For a 'cheap and cheerful' 28mm point-and-shoot, the Olympus Trip 505 can be found, at the time of writing, in the UK, new at almost 'thrift shop' prices. It has a glass triplet lens, and the built-in flash can be turned off.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Argh! Now I want an orange Konica Off-road.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85496
Thank you. 
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
That's probably one of the ugliest cameras I have ever seen You are a sick man |
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GrahamNR17
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Well, I finally found something. A bit different to what I was really looking for. I found a mint Canon Sure Shot A1 for 4.99 GBP. Lens is 32mm, so not as wide as I wanted. But seeing as it is for use when I am out walking the dogs or out riding a bike ride, I don't need to worry about it getting wet, or if I fall in a river 
Click here to see on Ebay |
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Minolfan wrote:
Not very small! But funny indeed. Congrats!
I have a Konica Mermaid for that kind of work, with 35mm 3.5. |
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