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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: Which Lenses for Trip w/ NEX-5N |
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nonac wrote:
I'm considering purchasing a NEX5N instead of the new Canon G1X for an upcoming trip to Europe. I have a Canon 5D2 and would prefer not to carry all of that gear around. If I go with the NEX5N combo, I'd be looking both a wide angle (preferably under 20mm) and 50mm fast primes. Manual focus is fine. Would you mind posting some recommendations for a total budget on lenses for around $600-800? I was thinking about going Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm f/1.4 Rolleiflex for my 50mm lens. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I would recommend a Tokina RMC 17mm F3.5 (available in M42, Canon FD and some more) as wide angle.
The M42 version should also work fine with your 5DMKII _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I would recommend the Sony SEL 2.8/16 (the Sony pancake) instead of an MF lens for the superwide shots.
Superwideangle SLR lenses adapted to the NEX-mount are insanely huge!
A nice and compact 28mm lens, such as the SMC Pentax-M 2.8/28 or a Zuiko 2.8/28 could work as your "normal" lens and a fast 50mm (e.g. the OM Zuiko 1.4/50 which also is pretty compact) as your portrait tele.
Finally a Leica Elmar-M 4/90 would complete your set.
You can find the 2.8/16 pre-owned for about US$ 150,-.
The Pentax-M 2.8/28 will be aroung US$ 50,-, the OM Zuiko 1.4/50 perhaps something like US$ 100,- and the Leica Elmar 4/90 about US$ 200,-.
So the whole set will set you back about US$ 500,- so that you even could add the Kit lens 18-55 OSS which sometimes is extremely useful.
Effective focal lenghts will be: 24mm, 42mm, 75mm, 135mm and 27-83mm. All you need with a NEX! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I'll take a look at that Tokina but it may be too large to put into a jacket pocket. I'm liking the sample pics of the Zuiko's that I've seen. However, it looks like the converter adds a good amount of extra length to the lens. Is there a slimmer OM converter available for the NEX? |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Nex 16/2,8, or MF pentax M20/4, zuiko 21/3.5, any pancake lenses. Pentax 50/1.7, 28/3.5, M85/2, M100/2.8, M135/3.5 or zuikos equivalent... _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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bhargav
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 938 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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bhargav wrote:
nonac wrote: |
Is there a slimmer OM converter available for the NEX? |
Yes, for example the contax g adapter is quite small and lenses are pretty small and light too. But a little more expensive I guess. On the other hand you get really good quality. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I my experience wide angles are more important than 50mm lenses on holidays with APS-C cameras
You want so see something from the brackground.
And yes the Tokina RMC is pretty large on NEX _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
Reasonably small, light & sharp is the Minolta 45/2. _________________ Ron
Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
Panasonic G1, GF1, 14-45, 45-200 & various legacy lenses.
Canon S5, Sony 1.7 Tele-converter & Raynox DCR 150 Macro converter. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
revers wrote: |
Reasonably small, light & sharp is the Minolta 45/2. |
+1
+Minolta MD 50mm F2 is also very very good and small
+Konica 40mm F1.8 is even smaller and has a very good reputation _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I agree with all above. I think you can afford a Voigtlander 12mm Leica M mount lens , that is usable on NEX with a simple Leica M adapter
and you will have a stunning 18mm lens on your NEX. Lens is very small , perfect company of your NEX. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
Thanks for the continued suggestions everyone. The Voigtlander looks great but abit out of budget unless I can find one at a lower used price. I'd prefer to get the new Zeiss for NEX which has auto focus if I'm going to purchase a lens at that price. Are there any other alternatives for small form factor super-wide?
Also, The minolta 50mm looks like a great smaller lens but the converter for NEX is also very thick. It would be nice to carry the NEX5 with a mounted 24mm (or below) with a 50mm in my coat pocket during the trip. Maybe this is abit unreasonable |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
nonac wrote: |
Also, The minolta 50mm looks like a great smaller lens but the converter for NEX is also very thick. It would be nice to carry the NEX5 with a mounted 24mm (or below) with a 50mm in my coat pocket during the trip. Maybe this is abit unreasonable |
Depends on the size of you coat pocket
The Konica 40mm F1.8 incl. adapter is the smallest cheap variant I know.
Fits into my coat pocket.
On my canoe trip in sweden a used a small fanny pack for camera and lenses during the day
(was enough space to put an two small konica hexanons, the adapter, the 16mm kit and the NEX-3 into it) _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
No fannie packs for me I think I'm going to go with the Konica 40mm based on size, price and image quality and the Voigtlander 15mm for size, price and focal length. That will run around $1000 for the kit. I'd be tempted to look at the Fuji x100 for that price but I really wasn't impressed with the x10 when I tried that a few weeks ago. |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:02 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
the 16 is the cheapest and fine if you are not too demanding.
I'll leave out the SLR glass because it's too large to travel with IMHO.
Also small but far superior for landscapes: cv 15 in ltm or M (can be found for 300USD with patience)
The best wide I know for the nex:
ZM 18mm
how good is it?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/969329/120#10106093
only the leica 18 is in this league in the 16-19 range on the nex sensor. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Tedat
Joined: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location: Berlin/Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
I would recommend a Tokina RMC 17mm F3.5 (available in M42, Canon FD and some more) as wide angle.
The M42 version should also work fine with your 5DMKII |
+1 except it has to fit in your pocket
it will look like this:
A smaller option would be the Voigtländer 4.5/15 Super Wide Heliar.. the Leica M adapter is probably the smallest and the lens is tiny. If you get a used one, it could also fit in your budget. _________________ Regards
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Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
revers wrote: |
Reasonably small, light & sharp is the Minolta 45/2. |
+1
+Minolta MD 50mm F2 is also very very good and small
+Konica 40mm F1.8 is even smaller and has a very good reputation |
Not that I need another 50mm but I found one I think reasonably priced & bought it. See it here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260937535546?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2F%3F_nkw%3D260937535546%26clk_rvr_id%3D308480496719%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 _________________ Ron
Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
Panasonic G1, GF1, 14-45, 45-200 & various legacy lenses.
Canon S5, Sony 1.7 Tele-converter & Raynox DCR 150 Macro converter. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had 15mm Heliar in L39 mount I couldn't try it on m4/3 due it goes deep into camera body, I believe it's unusable on NEX too. I saw 12mm Voigtlander with Leica M mount on NEX-3. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oh if you want a small inexpensive packet to travel , buy Samsung NX100 with 20-50 kit lens. It has stunning IQ and small, inexpensive. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Ron, the MD 2/50 is one of my favorites. This is with my EOS 10D, so you should get better and sharper images on your G1.
Agapanthas at f4
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
Looks nice but I would rather put the money into something I will use when I get home. I'd also go with the G1X if I went that route due t the sensor size and viewfinder. I'm actually leaning towards the NEX7 now but they seem to be pretty hard to come by :/
Attila wrote: |
Oh if you want a small inexpensive packet to travel , buy Samsung NX100 with 20-50 kit lens. It has stunning IQ and small, inexpensive. |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:48 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I had 15mm Heliar in L39 mount I couldn't try it on m4/3 due it goes deep into camera body, I believe it's unusable on NEX too. I saw 12mm Voigtlander with Leica M mount on NEX-3. |
15 heliar in wide use on the nex--all mounts.
It had wild colorshift on original nex, but is much tamer and quite sharp on the c3 and 5n. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
I finally figured out my lens selection. I'm slightly over budget but it's looking like I'll be moving to all nex from my current 5D2 setup. I've been extreemly impressed with the images that I've taken with the 15mm (and Voigtlander 40mm which I've since returned in favor of the Contax G's). For the trip, I'll most likely be taking the 15mm/45mm and maybe the 28mm. Thanks again for the suggestions everyone and I'll post pics taken with the new G's when I get them.
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
without question the best bang for buck in a nex lens set.
Very light.
Very sharp.
The only downside is the Contax G adapter and it's mechanical focusing, and you have nothing for low light. Bokeh on the 28 and 45 must be watched.
the small fast ones that come to mind are:
CV ultron 28/2 (not super small--but good) 1.9 also fine
CV 35/1.4: sharp outside the deep corners, some distortion, but very small. (40/1.4 cheaper and also works)
Pen-F 42/1.2 Fantastic on the nex, good both wide open and sharp at f/8, samllest super speed available. Downside is contax like bokeh.
some sort of fast 50. Ideal would be a very clean sonnar 50/1.5--mabye late 50's zeiss contax--but a J3 if good, would work, and there are a number of others--includig maybe the nikon 50/1.4--mine is no good at distance but others are.
the old zeiss sonnars are small and very interesting
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nonac
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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nonac wrote:
I was planning on using the 45/2 for low light. |
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