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ellepi
Joined: 07 Aug 2010 Posts: 486 Location: Treviso - Italia
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: M42 or Nikon mount compact zoom? |
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ellepi wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a compact zoom in M42 mount (second way in nikon mount) to use on Samsung NX100. With focal lenght between 40/50mm and 100/120mm.
Ideas? _________________ M42 | Super Takumar 20/4, 28/3.5, 35/3.5, 55/1.8, 105/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4 - Tair-11A - Helios-44M - Mir-1B
K | Pentax M40/2.8, K 55/2, A 50/1.7, M 50/1.7, M 135/3.5 - Jupiter 37-AM
Micro nikkor 60/2.8
Mamiya 645 | Sekor 24/4, 55/2.8, 80/2.8, 210/4 |
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Ymmot
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 168
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ymmot wrote:
That is a pretty uncommon focal length range for compact sized lenses.
Most of the lenses will be quite sizable and heavy in this focal range as far as I know.
I checked some Tamron Adaptall-2 lenses on adaptall-2.org (which are some of the more modern ones with generally decent performance and can be found frequently with m42 and nikon adapters),
however most of these are 28~35-135mm and about 10 to 11 cm long, still without an adapter to NX mount.
A native Samsung 50-200mm with stabilization and AF is definitely more compact, a lot lighter (and possibly optically better as well).
Have you considered this one?
Also do you have any other specs like cost/aperture/brand preference? |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
try nikkor zoom 35mm-105mm / 3.5-4.5.
it's compact, sharp, and has macro option _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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trev
Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 580 Location: North Wales - UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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trev wrote:
Also have a look at Tamrom adaptall bbar 35-70 with constant f3.5 and macro. generally considered to be a very good performer. I have one for my nx100 and its great _________________ Fuji X10, X-A1 and Samsung nx 20 |
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
the cheapest and lightest i know is Nikon 28 - 100mm a kit zoom lens
i have the Nikon 35 - 105 suggested by WolverineX - a lot heavier than the plastic lens above
nearest to your focal length comes my M 42 Soligor 37 - 105 f 3.5 (+ macro option...extending rear part of the lens ), it is available under some brands and some other people here have it - very heavy metal
there is also a nikon 50 - 150, an expensive lens - and if you might live with 70 - 150mm, the nikkor E series is a perfect lens on a good price basis _________________ Thomas
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
56 DIN wrote: |
i have the Nikon 35 - 105 suggested by WolverineX - a lot heavier than the plastic lens above
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it's not that heavy to be difficult to carry and use _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I don't know any really good zoom lens with M42 mount , Tamron SP zooms are good ones some of them like 35-80mm f2.8 good as prime. I think look for Nikons, surelly better than most M42 zooms. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
i didn´t want to express that the 35 - 105 is an unusable lens - i like it. If you mount it onto a small cam its weight is to be considered much more than on a SLR
masses ( first 3 nikon ):
F 3.5 - 5.6 28 - 100 mm 195gr
F 3.5 - 5.6 28 - 200 mm 555gr
F 3.5 - 4.5 35 - 105 mm 510gr
F 3.5 37 - 105 mm 780gr ( Soligor) _________________ Thomas
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I don't know any really good zoom lens with M42 mount , Tamron SP zooms are good ones some of them like 35-80mm f2.8 good as prime. I think look for Nikons, surelly better than most M42 zooms. |
Not buy lenses to your existing adapters, adapters are cheap , buy best lens what you can buy for your money. Konica zooms are excellent and they go for peanuts... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
56 DIN wrote: |
If you mount it onto a small cam its weight is to be considered much more than on a SLR
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i'll tell you how it is to use it with smaller cam than SLR , when i buy that olympus m43 cam that comes out next month _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
My favorite in that neighborhood is an M42 Sears-Tokina 55-135/3.5 (680g).
My not-favorite in that vicinity is a N/AI Tokina RMC 35-135/3.5-4.5 (470g).
If you have more money to spend, try a Takumar Zoom 45-125/4 (610g).
If you have less money on hand, consider a Sigma-XQ 39-80/3.5 (450g).
On second thought, forget the M42 Sigma. It's likely not good enough. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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ellepi
Joined: 07 Aug 2010 Posts: 486 Location: Treviso - Italia
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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ellepi wrote:
Thank you people.
I prefer a most compact possible zoom. From 40/50mm to...
Weight isn't a problem, length yes.
What do you think about Pentax m 40-80? _________________ M42 | Super Takumar 20/4, 28/3.5, 35/3.5, 55/1.8, 105/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4 - Tair-11A - Helios-44M - Mir-1B
K | Pentax M40/2.8, K 55/2, A 50/1.7, M 50/1.7, M 135/3.5 - Jupiter 37-AM
Micro nikkor 60/2.8
Mamiya 645 | Sekor 24/4, 55/2.8, 80/2.8, 210/4 |
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
Sigma Zoom Master 2.8-4/35-70 is not too bad.
It's 65mm long @ 70mm FL and 85mm long at 35mm FL with a 52mm filter thread.
Had one on a Praktica BC-1 for twenty years and rarely took it off. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
ellepi wrote: |
What do you think about Pentax m 40-80? |
it has a rather poor reputation.
The f4/45-105 that comes in M42 as Takumar or as Pentax K lens in K mount has much better reputation, but I am afraid it is not a compact lens. see the impressive samples here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/sets/72157604387521976/ _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
I have a Soligor 35-105mm f3.5 Nikon F mount macro @ 35mm focal length.May be sold for reasonable offer.pm if interested. |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
ellepi wrote: |
I prefer a most compact possible zoom. From 40/50mm to...
Weight isn't a problem, length yes. |
Then I won't recommend the Schneider Betavaron 50-125/4-5.6.
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What do you think about Pentax m 40-80? |
Mine was not great. Mostly it was worn out, super-loose mechanically. But the optics never satisfied either. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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