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Attila
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 Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: R.A. Goldmann 18x42cm Voigtlander Heliar 4,5/210mm traveler |
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Attila wrote:
English type traveler camera.
This is what I call 'fullframe'  sensor size is 18x24cm
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mo
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mo wrote:
How hard would it have been to carry one of these around!...errr could you hold that pose while I set up...
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
Even the transport of the negatives (in glass?) might be a pain.
Nothing for handheld anyhow.
But a beautifull piece! |
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petr22 wrote:
Whole darkroom was needed back then, all pictures was developed when material was still wet. In some materials from year 1860, they say only 3 horses were needed for landscape photographer  |
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mo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
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| Whole darkroom was needed back then, all pictures was developed when material was still wet. In some materials from year 1860, they say only 3 horses were needed for landscape photographer |
and we can whinge about our heavy modern DLSRs.. 
It is a really nice piece Attila,are these cameras butchered for their lenses?.... and will it be a candidate for you to take it out to photograph buda castle? (half serious... half joking  )
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petr22 wrote:
For first photographs of top of Mont Blanc mountain, 250kg of equipment was needed. Photographers must prepares his glass plates, take photographs, and develop them in darkroom, everything on the summit. He was able to take three photographs.
This Goldmann camera was build around year 1900 in Vienna, capital of Austro-Hungarian Empire |
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luisalegria wrote:
Lovely thing, like most of these wooden cameras.
As for butchering, etc. - 8x10 (same as 18x24cm) cameras are quite valuable by themselves, even without a lens.
This one which seems to be in beautiful shape, would be worth a substantial amount I would think, in the hundreds of dollars, even without the Heliar.
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luisalegria wrote:
This one (scroll down a bit) was sold for 264 euro at auction in 2010 - it included an f/6.3 240mm Dagor.
I don't think the vendor did a good job, just the Dagor could bring a better price on ebay.
http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=197084&acat=197084&lang=3
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Attila wrote:
Yes, Dagor is a top lens, buyer was damn lucky.
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Sevo wrote:
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I don't think the vendor did a good job, just the Dagor could bring a better price on ebay.
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Maybe. The really high priced Dagors aren't Berlin lenses, but the US made coated/multicoated ones from the fifties or later, and are valued mostly by US buyers - IMHO half out of patriotism, half because its size and weight come in handy for their Ansel Adams-inspired tradition of large format hiking excursions into National Parks.
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