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natebarnz
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 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: Compare Sonnar 100/3.5 and Elmarit-R 90/2.8 |
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natebarnz wrote:
Just a quick comparison using my new xmas present, a gitzo tripod 
I'm not trying to prove anything here but only to show a few samples from each lens.
All shots taken at f8.
I must say I think both lenses are superb. The Leica seems to have a better color in my opinion and, between my samples, I think the Leica is sharper too. I intend on taking some portraits with both lenses and I think there will be a much greater difference between the lens character in that scenario.
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Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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IAZA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:41 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
thanks for share..
I'm not surprise with result. elmarit is great lens. try high ISO, you will see the difference
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aoleg
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
At f/8, there can be no meaningful difference in sharpness. Both lenses are diffraction limited here. Colors: did you fix the white balance, or was it set to "Auto"?
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
| aoleg wrote: |
| At f/8, there can be no meaningful difference in sharpness. Both lenses are diffraction limited here. Colors: did you fix the white balance, or was it set to "Auto"? |
Auto WB and no pp. Just straight from my 500d and exported from lightroom without any alteration.
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
Not surprised, but which version of the Elmarit? |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
| FluffPuppy wrote: |
| Not surprised, but which version of the Elmarit? |
This one is a Leitz German E55 S/N 3323499 (If my memory serves me right its 3 cam but I don't know how to tell).
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
| FluffPuppy wrote: |
| Not surprised, but which version of the Elmarit? |
This one is a Leitz German E55 S/N 3323499 (If my memory serves me right its 3 cam but I don't know how to tell). |
There were at least two, possibly three different designs. I owned the first one at one time and was always impressed by it. |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
I can verify that it is a 3 cam and was produced in 1984. Any other details that I could look for to help identify that exact variation would be great.
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
| I can verify that it is a 3 cam and was produced in 1984. Any other details that I could look for to help identify that exact variation would be great. |
Must be this one:
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_II
This is the model I owned:
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
Looks just like this one except mine says Leitz on the front element ring and also does not say E55 on that ring. It says E55 on the barrel. Also a correction from what I said earlier, this is a made in canada version, not made in germany.
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
Looks just like this one except mine says Leitz on the front element ring and also does not say E55 on that ring. It says E55 on the barrel. Also a correction from what I said earlier, this is a made in canada version, not made in germany. |
It seems they made that lens in both plants. |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
For these two lenses my primary criteria is sharpness and micro contrast as I prefer to shoot landscape. I'm comparing these lenses because I won't bring both of them with me on a long hike. I'm going to run a few more tests today in my backyard that will hopefully show their abilities at infinity.
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
| For these two lenses my primary criteria is sharpness and micro contrast as I prefer to shoot landscape. I'm comparing these lenses because I won't bring both of them with me on a long hike. I'm going to run a few more tests today in my backyard that will hopefully show their abilities at infinity. |
Well, there are damned few lenses that compete with the 90mm Elmarit-R. As I said I owned the first version; the second is supposed to be even better, so it must be glorious! |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
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| Well, there are damned few lenses that compete with the 90mm Elmarit-R. As I said I owned the first version; the second is supposed to be even better, so it must be glorious! |
I'm certainly thinking the same thing. In this focal range I know the Planar 85/1.4 is phenomenal with sharpness and micro contrast at infinity, and I suspect the Planar 100/2 is even better. Until I get those in my bag I'm starting to think the Elmarit is my leader. I certainly have more tests to do to prove my winner though.
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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FluffPuppy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
| natebarnz wrote: |
| FluffPuppy wrote: |
| Well, there are damned few lenses that compete with the 90mm Elmarit-R. As I said I owned the first version; the second is supposed to be even better, so it must be glorious! |
I'm certainly thinking the same thing. In this focal range I know the Planar 85/1.4 is phenomenal with sharpness and micro contrast at infinity, and I suspect the Planar 100/2 is even better. Until I get those in my bag I'm starting to think the Elmarit is my leader. I certainly have more tests to do to prove my winner though. |
Well the Planar is a much faster lens. Leica made an 80mm Summilux which is more comparable to that. |
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natebarnz
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
A comparison at f4 in the garden.
Sonnar
Elmarit
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500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
Contax 28/2 - 35/1.4 - 35/2.8 - 45/2.8 - 50/1.4 - 100/3.5 - 135/2.8
CZJ 20/4 - 35/2.8 - 50/2.8 - 58/2 - 135/3.5
Rokkor PG 58/1.2 - PF 58/1.4 - X 85/1.7
Nikkor S 55/1.2 - H 85/1.8 - P.C. 55/3.5
Helios 44-2 58/2 Meyer Oreston 50/1.8
Elmarit-R 90/2.8 Sears 55/1.4
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