cyrusuncc
Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Posts: 13 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: Focusing & Metering: Canon EOS with manual focus lenses |
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cyrusuncc wrote:
Sorry in advance if this has been discussed before (did a quick search but didn't find what i was looking for). I'm new to the manual focus lens area; in fact, i have purchased 3 M42 lenses and the adapter with AF Confirm, but they haven't even been delivered. I am wondering what the proper technique is to using these lenses with an AF confirm chip.
With an AF lens, i press the shutter half way to focus and meter, then press fully to take the picture. With the manual lens, would i set the aperture, focus, then press the shutter half way to meter, fully press to take the picture? in Aperture priority mode, will it attempt to set the exposure and shutter speed properly? Is there a 'best practices' technique for this or do most go fully manual (including setting the ISO)?
Thanks in advance!
This is the adapter i purchased:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110731872129?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 _________________ M42: MIR 1B, Helios 44-2, Jupiter 37A
OM: Vivitar 28mm 2.8 close focus |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
Expire: 2019-08-29
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
set the AV mode and aperture on lens and shot, then check your histogram and make correction if needed
for AF confirm, best result seems when start from infinite, slowly moving the barrel and stop when the light is on
there is a new generation of adapter, not cheap, who allow to record the aperture in the exif
in this case the procedure is different, I have one for 1 year but I still don't understand how it's work _________________ T* |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11046 Location: California
Expire: 2025-04-11
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Without AF, viewfinder quality becomes important, to see the focal plane position and the DOF.
Stock focus screens are optimized for lenses maximum f/3.5. Accurate focus of faster lenses is impossible because the stock focus screen cannot show focal plane thinner than f/3.5. Optional E?-S matte focus screens are optimized to show focal plane to f/1.8, but at the expense of some viewfinder light loss for smaller apertures -- with E?-S focus screen the viewfinder is darker when aperture is f/2.8 or more.
From the Canon 5Dc White Paper (page 9), the main focus sensors operate at @f/5.6, and for lenses f/2.8 or faster 3 additional sensors in the center operate @f/2.8. Thus the focus-confirm system is inaccurate for lenses faster than f/2.8; the much thinner f/1.4 lens DOF focus gets confirmed somewhere within the f/2.8 DOF. For me, seeing the focal plane in viewfinder is more accurate. I've removed all the auto-confirm chips from adapters! The flashing lights were distracting as well.
I usually focus with lens wide open, then stop down to check DOF and make the photo. Some lenses have auto/manual diaphragm switch. With these I use an adapter without a flange. The desired aperture can be set on the lens, then use a/m switch to open and close it for focusing and making photo. Flanged adapter or other method to depress diaphragm pin is necessary to use lenses without a/m switch. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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