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Alternate Internet ID
Joined: 30 Mar 2011 Posts: 253 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject: Taking stuff apart! |
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Alternate Internet ID wrote:
I've been buying all kinds of lenses recently.
I seem to raiding anywhere that sells used stuff and buying up whatever they have (max £6 to date).
I've been pretty lucky so far but just last night I had what looked like a mint 28mm Sigma come apart in my hands and from the same batch a 29mm Pentacon with all kinds of haze and fungus.
What do I need to get started doing repairs? Can I do the basics with a decent set of jewellers screwdrivers?
I've been reading through this forum and I'd like to start out simple by cleaning the odd element.
I'd like to do it as cheaply as possible as I have a habit of making things worse once I start tinkering.
TIA _________________
“Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure.”
Tony Benn
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Sigma: Macro HSM 2.8-4/17-70mm
Sigma: 1.4/50mm EX DG HSM
Samsung: 3.5-5.6/20-50mm
Samsung: 2/30mm
CZJ: MC Flektogon 2.4/35mm
Tamron SP: 2.5/90mm
Helios 44M: 2/58mm
Canon FL: 1.4/50mm
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
Expire: 2011-12-02
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
You read the sticky postings here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/equipment-care-and-repairs-f6.html
There is a lot of info about fungus cleaning and tools for lens repair.
Probably you find even more informations here on my DIY link-directory:
http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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Alternate Internet ID
Joined: 30 Mar 2011 Posts: 253 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Alternate Internet ID wrote:
Been working my way through the sticky postings and now your website.
The hardest part seems to be the actual disassembling - are there any beginners guides? _________________
“Most things in life are moments of pleasure and a lifetime of embarrassment; photography is a moment of embarrassment and a lifetime of pleasure.”
Tony Benn
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Sigma: Macro HSM 2.8-4/17-70mm
Sigma: 1.4/50mm EX DG HSM
Samsung: 3.5-5.6/20-50mm
Samsung: 2/30mm
CZJ: MC Flektogon 2.4/35mm
Tamron SP: 2.5/90mm
Helios 44M: 2/58mm
Canon FL: 1.4/50mm
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
This is certainly not the response you are looking for but the best beginner's guide is to take a few things apart first. Written word guides are helpful but I truly believe one needs acquire a "feel" for basic disassembly.
Get a few hopeless samples from a flea-market and learn basic lens construction. It will help greatly in the long run.
I feel the most essential tools are:
a set of screwdrivers
a spanner
vinyl/latex gloves for touching elements
cotton swabs (q-tips)
high quality lens cleaner (made especially for optical coated lenses) |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
Expire: 2011-12-02
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
This is certainly not the response you are looking for but the best beginner's guide is to take a few things apart first. Written word guides are helpful but I truly believe one needs acquire a "feel" for basic disassembly.
Get a few hopeless samples from a flea-market and learn basic lens construction. It will help greatly in the long run.
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Yeah, read some basics, and then learning by doing with cheap lenses. Probably after that further reading.
And take cheap lenses for the learning process. Avoid zoom lenses - they are quite more problematic. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
+1 avoid zooms and lenses with floating elements, and I firmly believe that the Helios 44-2 is a great lens to learn the basics on. |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
+1 avoid zooms and lenses with floating elements, and I firmly believe that the Helios 44-2 is a great lens to learn the basics on. |
When taking one apart keep the disassembly in a shallow pan or plastic container on top of a clean white cloth such as an old pillow case. Those little screws will disappear right in front of your eyes. As you take them out put them in a small plastic bowl or even a sandwich bag. Label where they go on the bag and use a different bag for each set of screws. Then you can put them with the larger pieces as described below.
Take photos every step of the way.
As you take it apart put the larger pieces on a white cloth starting at the top left and go left to right in rows from top to bottom. Re- assemble by going right to left and bottom to top. Sounds silly but it makes the job so much easier.
Hope this helps. _________________ Big Dawg |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
jewellers screwdrivers? NO! Not unless you have very small fingers. Look at Electronics screwdrivers instead. The center body is generally larger and easier to grip. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
walter g wrote: |
jewellers screwdrivers? NO! Not unless you have very small fingers. Look at Electronics screwdrivers instead. The center body is generally larger and easier to grip. |
I use a small one from Home Depot with interchangeable tips. Has phillips and flat blades of four different sizes that store in the handle. Very small but the butt cap pivots allowing easy screwing with one hand. I also have a small magnetizer de-magnetizer so the screws will stay on the tip.
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Hand-Tools-Screwdrivers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZas0k/R-100074336/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
I also use a set of magnifying eyeglasses like a jeweler or doctor uses. Bought them at www.Harborfreight.com. They have LED illumination too.
http://www.harborfreight.com/magnifier-head-strap-with-lights-38896.html _________________ Big Dawg |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Be careful.......with Japanese lenses you need a Japanese version of Phillips, this might only be a problem with screws that you need to exert maximum force, and if using ordinary Phillips will ruin the screw. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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