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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: Inexpensive excellent cameras |
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Attila wrote:
My hints are next:
Konica C35
Konica AF3
Werra 3
Franka
Konica Big Mini
Kiev, Fed, Zorki
Konica Pearl
Konica FC-1
Konica FT-1
Praktica MTL5B
etc _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
kodak retina
ricoh tls 401
konica tc-x
canon eos IX
yashica electro gx _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
erm this list could confuse people as everyone is going to add his/her selection _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
erm this list could confuse people as everyone is going to add his/her selection |
No problem it will be great help for beginners and most of us too _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Do you have to consider what the reliability record of the cameras ?
Some cameras are both cheap and very well made but they are likely to require expert repair today, like the Retinas.
Others almost always work.
I agree with the Konicas - these seem to be made to last forever
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Konica S series
Yashica 1000/5000. The Lynx 1C almost always seem to need work but they are easy to fix. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well my most used camera is a Canon T70 so my list starts:-
Canon T70 cheap and ugly but a very good camera
Canon A1 very good if it doesn't have Canon cough/squeak (easy to fix yourself though)
Konica TC Ok it takes 1.35v batteries but I've stuck a 1.5v in and it's only 1/2 stop out so have adjusted the ASA dial.
Minolta 101b nice old manual camera
and its super duper brothers X-300, X500 and X700 are very good.
If you are really broke then a MTL3, MTL5 can do the job.
For compact Point and shoots.......I must have about 10 lying around, but buying from boot sales or charity shops prices are from 50p to £5 and my selection would be:-
Konica C35
Nikon L35 and AF210 or any Nikon model
Olympus XA-II _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent.
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erkie
Joined: 08 Oct 2011 Posts: 308 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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erkie wrote:
Another vote for the Retinas and Lynx 1000/5000.
And I will add the pentax SV/H3v And the Minolta SRT 102 if you can find it.
And I will add the Iskra as well even if the frame counter no longer works many have a red window added and it seems to work ok. _________________
I shoot film and meter with digital
Asahi H3v, Praktica FX3, Retina IIa, Spotmatic sp1000, Fujica V2, Yashica lynx5000, Pentax Sf1, Minolta SRT102, Minolta7000i, Pentax MX, Pentax ME, Pentax Kx
lensesM42- Isco Gottingen Westanar 50/2.8, Isco Gottingen Westron 35/2.8, Rikenon 35/2.8, Spiratone Tc 105/2.5, Spiratone Tc 200/4.5, Sankyo Kohki Komura 300/5, Sankyo Kohki Komura 135/3.5, Auto Tak 35/3.5, Super Tak 150/4, S-M-C Tak 50/1.4, S-M-C Tak 28/3.5, SMC Tak 55/2, Mamya Sekor 55/1.8
K- mount- Helios 44-K-4, Jc penny 28/2.8, Da 18-55, Da 55-300, Pentax F 35-70, SMCP M 50/1.4, SMCP M 50/1.7
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5038 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Yashica TLR:s _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Anything under 30gbp that works.
Simplistic I know, but FSU cameras have about a 1 in 5 chance of working correctly in my experience. Even my Canon RF arrived with a faulty shutter. Old kit is problematic. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ricoh FF-xx series point and shoots. The best being the Ricoh FF-1, I think Carsten is
the only one here that owns one. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
"Old kit is problematic"
Indeed, thats the most important factor. Not just the probability of working correctly 30-60 years after it was made, but how easy it is to get it back in working order.
Some old kit is less problematic though, and these should be the things that get recommended.
For what its worth, the Zorki 4 I have worked for one roll, and then the shutter got wonky. I still haven't figured out how to fix it; I suspect dirt or lack of lubrication somewhere I can't get to yet.
If we are naming all sorts of old kit, not just rangefinders, the stuff I really like, for durability, are the Ricoh/Sears TLS, I have had five of these at least pass through my possession, and all worked great, no problems at all, not even bad seals. These seem to have been made to last. Built better than tanks; no tank I can think of would be starting after sitting for four decades. I have had bad Exaktas, Nikons, Nikkormats, Minoltas, Pentax K-mount cameras, Yashica SLR's, etc., but no bad Ricoh TLS.
Pentax Spotmatics and the Pentax S/H series are also very good. I likewise have had 6+ of these. The only serious problem I have seen is very easy to fix, the lack of lube on the mirror release. Just remove the bottom plate and all is well.
Kodak Retinas are at the opposite of the list, particularly the later rangefinders and the SLR's. Not only is nearly every one of these defective but they are nearly impossible for the amateur to fix. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5038 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
"Old kit is problematic"
Indeed, thats the most important factor. Not just the probability of working correctly 30-60 years after it was made, but how easy it is to get it back in working order. |
Well - then the only answer is Kiev. Only camera you really can fix with a swiss multi-purpose-knife. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
For what its worth, the Zorki 4 I have worked for one roll, and then the shutter got wonky. I still haven't figured out how to fix it; I suspect dirt or lack of lubrication somewhere I can't get to yet. |
Let me know if you ever figure it out would you please Luis? I also have one with a wonky shutter, and a Zenit 3M with the same mechanics and problem. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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tikkathree
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 755 Location: Lovely Suffolk in Great Britain
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
Canon A1 very good if it doesn't have Canon cough/squeak (easy to fix yourself though)
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Have you got the knack with the hypodermic and oil can? _________________ I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
tikkathree wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
Canon A1 very good if it doesn't have Canon cough/squeak (easy to fix yourself though)
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Have you got the knack with the hypodermic and oil can? |
Dunk the camera in 5 litres of 5W/30 engine oil and the squeak should go If that doesn't work this is the next step:- http://www.aldo-net.com/Canon/ _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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erkie
Joined: 08 Oct 2011 Posts: 308 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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erkie wrote:
Ooops I just realised that this is the rangefinder section so my Pentax Sv and minolta srt102 are not appropriate.
So I will nominate the old Kadak Signet 35. The Ektar lens is Very Very good and if you can feed your self with a knife and fork you will have no problem working on this one your self, Including the shutter. The only downside to this camera is the shutter release is on the front instead of where anyone with any sense would put it _________________
I shoot film and meter with digital
Asahi H3v, Praktica FX3, Retina IIa, Spotmatic sp1000, Fujica V2, Yashica lynx5000, Pentax Sf1, Minolta SRT102, Minolta7000i, Pentax MX, Pentax ME, Pentax Kx
lensesM42- Isco Gottingen Westanar 50/2.8, Isco Gottingen Westron 35/2.8, Rikenon 35/2.8, Spiratone Tc 105/2.5, Spiratone Tc 200/4.5, Sankyo Kohki Komura 300/5, Sankyo Kohki Komura 135/3.5, Auto Tak 35/3.5, Super Tak 150/4, S-M-C Tak 50/1.4, S-M-C Tak 28/3.5, SMC Tak 55/2, Mamya Sekor 55/1.8
K- mount- Helios 44-K-4, Jc penny 28/2.8, Da 18-55, Da 55-300, Pentax F 35-70, SMCP M 50/1.4, SMCP M 50/1.7
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alex66
Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 29 Location: Bedfordshire England
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:48 am Post subject: |
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alex66 wrote:
Well ones I have enjoyed for silly low money:
Cosina 35e, 40mm(38?) 2.8 rangefinder that went with me every place and cost me 99p, sadly she got stolen with my bag.
A Prinz 35e that I picked up for roughly the same money as a replacement, and it is the exact same camera.
An Olympus MJu 1 for about £2 or so, its a very nice camera but I have to switch the flash off every time I use her.
I picked up a few 6x6 cameras off the bat for about a fiver each, a Zeiss Nettar, A Foika and an Agilux, but they all seem a little flakey though they do give a good photograph.
A Zorki 4k with a Jupiter 8 and a collapsable f3.5mm, it is very basic in use etc but the Jupiter 8 is a great lens and the collapsable is interesting.
The Olympus XA2 is another nice camera but I keep forgetting to set the zone focus on it. |
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