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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Ebony & Ivory ! Reply with quote

I'm not in any relation with the seller of this camera, but it's such a beautiful to look at, I can't withstand to post it here:

http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_de/rare-collectables/cameras/contax-jena-ivory-sku19854-39.html

have fun


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice idea but very tatty, frayed leather and chipped paint. I'd have had it powder coated for about £30.

It's priced at about 40 times what its worth (edited, arithmetic was never my best subject)

not for me. Tacky

edit: Where is the ebony bit?

edit edit: add 20% VAT too and it tops ten grand. FFS Shocked Shocked Rolling Eyes


Last edited by philslizzy on Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:25 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a home brew project or factory issue?


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:
Is this a home brew project or factory issue?


I don't believe similar crappy look item left factory, if anybody wan't similar original one I can find right people who can make it now, even with 'genuine' brochure as evidence LOL. I am kidding , but honestly not difficult to make it, so ideal to trap people with big wallet.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
konicamera wrote:
Is this a home brew project or factory issue?


I don't believe similar crappy look item left factory, if anybody wan't similar original one I can find right people who can make it now, even with 'genuine' brochure as evidence LOL. I am kidding , but honestly not difficult to make it, so ideal to trap people with big wallet.


Goodness, it's terrible how some sellers take advantage of unsuspecting people like this. On the other hand, some of the buyers are quite willing. It reminds me of that old Hungarian saying you posted once, about "the mother of idiots being continuously pregnant". Is that how it went? In America they say "there's a sucker born every minute". Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philslizzy wrote:
edit: Where is the ebony bit?


Took a look to it's inner values? BLACK like Ivory! Wink Wink

Nope guys, I don't want You to buy or bid, but I'm a lover of -tasteful- non-black & non chromium cams!

want some colour?

here for Your eyes only:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/canonf1/html/odf1.htm
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/michaeliu/cameras/nikonf/fbody/NikonF_olive/index.htm
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/Leica/Leica-M3/M3-Olive_Bundeseigentum/index1.htm
http://leicavit.blogspot.de/2011/02/leica-m4-desert-storm.html

B U T, as mentionend: -tasteful!

I don't need that swastika or similar bullshit!
And this is also a bit at the broder of tastefulness:
http://leicarumors.com/2011/12/25/how-not-to-paint-your-leica-m9-pink.aspx/


have a laugh!


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:
Attila wrote:
konicamera wrote:
Is this a home brew project or factory issue?


I don't believe similar crappy look item left factory, if anybody wan't similar original one I can find right people who can make it now, even with 'genuine' brochure as evidence LOL. I am kidding , but honestly not difficult to make it, so ideal to trap people with big wallet.


Goodness, it's terrible how some sellers take advantage of unsuspecting people like this. On the other hand, some of the buyers are quite willing. It reminds me of that old Hungarian saying you posted once, about "the mother of idiots being continuously pregnant". Is that how it went? In America they say "there's a sucker born every minute". Very Happy


Smile Smile


PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like green safari editions on above links I found them nice. Leica in desert clothes and pinky, looks crapy.

This was done by my friend, silly buyer did look price tag only it was less than any other ordinary black, buyer really didn't care extra look. Actually I like it very much once I will ask my friend to make me one, perhaps I will figure out some bullshit , made for princess Diana or similar Laughing Laughing
http://forum.mflenses.com/rolleiflex-e-planar-2-8-red-t57061,highlight,%2Bred+%2Brolleiflex.html



PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rollei can be restored back to black no problem even if the original leathers are gone. It looks fun.

The Contax not so easily. The paint is chipped and will only chip more if it is used. Of course restored back to its original it will only be worth £250 not £10,000


PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

philslizzy wrote:
...back to black no problem ....The Contax not so easily. The paint is chipped and will only chip more if it is used. Of course restored back to its original it will only be worth £250 not £10,000


o.k. folks, now I'm a bit pi..ed off:
Wanted to let You part in an extrem rarity, say camera porn!

2008 an Elfenbein Contax in mint went for 11.000€:
http://www.westlicht.com/event-galerie/14-westlicht-photographica-auction-am-30-november-2008/
http://www.westlicht.com/event-galerie/14-westlicht-photographica-auction-am-30-november-2008/bildgalerie/

And You are only talking about painting this goddess of cam black! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad A sin only to think about!

The seller of the ivory Contax is a more than reputated camera auctioneer, they deal also in other price categories:
http://leicarumors.com/2012/05/12/new-world-record-for-the-most-expensive-camera-2790000-usd-for-leica-0-serie.aspx/

....and You're talking 'bout some 10.000.-, ha ha

@mods: Is there a forum more fitting to my financial class? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

have fun


PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't mind having this nice Jena Contax!
There were a few original ones.
Some years ago, I had the 500 Zeiss Fernobjektiv for the contax mirror box in this painting. Bought it in Jena. It was so rough in condition because of heavy use, I resold it again.

Klaus


PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually like the finish a bit.
The Ivory/off white enamel finish with black trim or chrome details is very attractive. It reminds me of quality Hewlett Packard test equipment, or maybe a 1960's Volvo.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duck rider,I would say take it easy and try not to be offended,it's friendly banter. I like the cream camera style as well and can appreciate it for its looks .


PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought the British-made Ilford Advocate was the only cream-enamelled camera. Seems it has at least one cousin. But why cream enamel?


PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mo wrote:
Duck rider,I would say take it easy and try not to be offended,it's friendly banter. I like the cream camera style as well and can appreciate it for its looks .


Thanks to You mo!
..but I was making joke Wink, I think we're here all in the (in)same situation.

@scsambrook: Ilford Advocate looks nice, I didn't know her yet, thanks!
I think at the post war time in GDR there was not enough chromium or black paint, so they decided to use, what they had. Short after they recieved perhaps chromium salts and went on as usual.
Was a hard time for all of our (grand-)parents, but people in that times were ingenious to take, what was availiable.
And some of these solutions lived out for decades, remember aluminium for Land Rovers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Steer
and todays idiots are going to prohibit production of the LR after nearly 70 years:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449593/Land-Rover-Defender-cease-production-2015.html
when I see "replacement" I'm going to barf under my car!

Shocked Shocked Shocked


PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ebony-colour Jena Contax (this means one of the very few Contaxes made in Saalfeld under Soviet control ca. in 1946-47) existed and original pieces with this strange colouring are known.

One of them is illustrated in H.J. Kuc's "Auf den Spuren der Contax" vol. 2.

All the best,

E.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elmar Lang wrote:
The ebony-colour Jena Contax (this means one of the very few Contaxes made in Saalfeld under Soviet control ca. in 1946-47) existed and original pieces with this strange colouring are known.

One of them is illustrated in H.J. Kuc's "Auf den Spuren der Contax" vol. 2.

All the best,

E.


Well, I'll be.... I must take back what I wrote earlier.