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walter g
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 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: Minolta Celtic MD 35 f2.8 |
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walter g wrote:
I keep trying too say no. Then I look on the Bay and see a lens with no bids, and LBA kicks in.
Starting bid of .99 cents with reasonable shipping. I look at the pics and the description and I know if I place a bid I will win.
Mechanically it has no issues. No scratches on lenses or fungus and works perfectly. But looks wise I'd rate it as a BRGN lens, but with a good clean it will look better.
I still hesitate. I really don't need another 35mm Minolta lens. So I look at the pics again and think: isn't this the version that has the same optics as the Rokkor version.
So I place my bid. I know I will win it for .99 cents, but to be safe I put in a top bid of $2.15. 
Less then an hour and a half till the auction closes, so I watch TV to pass the time. My show goes off and I walk over to the computer to pay for my lens.
I'm already planning the test I will run against my other 2 Minolta 35's.
So I log on to the the bay and sure enough I had just won it for .99 cents. 
Here are the listing pics from my new toy.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Congrats, for 99c it looks great! So, is this the official lens for the Boston
Celtics or what? Or do you have to play Loreena McKennitt CDs when the
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Thanks,
Good point. I guess I should provide some info on the Celtic line. The Celtic line was Minoltas Econmy line. It started back in the MC line and continued thru the MD series.
Sometimes they would have less features. Like having no stop down lever. With the Celtic line it helps if you know exactly what you're buying.
In this case they are thought to be optically the same with minor changes. This has a different grip then the Rokkor version would.
One reason I wanted this is because it is really a different lens then the early lenses.
I have the MC Rokkor HG which is a 7/6. The later Rokkors, Celtic, and MD lenses are a 5/5.
So it should be interesting how both lenses render images. Tomorrow I can pick up my early 35 /4 QE lens also. Which is a 5/4.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I just double checked and the lens is exactly what I thought it was.
It's a gen. 1 MD Minolta Celtic, exactly what I was hoping for.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
It would be interesting if the 24mm Celtic (if they made it) is any good as 24mm Rokkors ain't cheap any more.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
The celtic line haven't the same multicoated than the Mc and MD ones. The diafragm mechanism and the kind of metal used in the focus mechanism should be different too.
The same thing happened with the Hexar serie, in the Konica brand.
About the 28 and 35 mm lenses, were common that the 7 elements designs were replaced by a newer design of 5 elements lenses.
Enjoy.
Rino
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kuuan
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
congrats Walter, I think you will like it!
a Minolta Celtic 28mm was the second lens I ever bought some 30+ years ago, and I loved this light little lens
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
Thanks, guys. I got the lens today. 
I had a little extra time I didn't think I'd have.So I decide to take some test shots.
I thought I'd try an expierment first. Canon EOS 10D with macro adapter, with 2x TC, then Minolta Celtic 35 2.8
Maximum focus distance goes from about 6" to a little over 2'.
Of course Murphys law kicked in and as soon as I did this shot my battery went dead. 
Any comments welcome. I'm also curious if anyone has tried this?
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:55 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
One more pic using the 2X TC. Please look at these 2 photos and make whatever comments you have. I have a Minolta 2X convertor I don't need.
I thought about changing the mount to Canon EOS. My own version of a MD EOS adapter. Do you thinnk it's worth doing??
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well if you don't mind comments......your two shots don't look sharp on my screen, that's if sharpness is important to you?
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| Well if you don't mind comments......your two shots don't look sharp on my screen, that's if sharpness is important to you? |
Thank You, all comments are welcome and apreceiated.The shots are wide open so I don't expect them to be really sharp, but I agree with you they don't look sharp on my screen either.I would expect better results then this.
I will take more shots with no TC and see what they turn out like.
Thanks again, Walter
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interestingly, the 2nd one looks sharper to me
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
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| Interestingly, the 2nd one looks sharper to me |
Thank You. I normally post any processing info, but this time I forgot to.
The first shot is straight out of the camera resized but no PP at all.
The second shot is a slight crop,minor sharpening, and resized. No other PP.
Both shots are wide open, but with me using a TC I guess you'd say for comparison they are at 5.6 ?
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I'd like to repeat the shot exactly, but with a 10D and macro adapter I can't.
This is the same flower shot at the same time of day.Resized, but no PP
This is shot at 5.6. I will post a shot wide open hopefully later today.
Comments and Critiques are welcome. This is a new Cone Flower I bought this year.Colors are pretty close to the plant.
This shot is at f2.8. No PP just resized. C/C welcome.
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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