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tikkathree
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 Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Canon FD 200 |
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tikkathree wrote:
This one's not working out to be a razor of a lens. Maybe it's all the dust, maybe it's the eebay glazed adapter. Some of its pictures are quite pretty though and I'm still glad I dragged it across the Atlantic.
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killwilly
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Canon FD 200 |
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killwilly wrote:
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This one's not working out to be a razor of a lens. Maybe it's all the dust, maybe it's the eebay glazed adapter. Some of its pictures are quite pretty though and I'm still glad I dragged it across the Atlantic.
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Those look pretty good to me. I would very happy to get results like that from my FD lenses and the FD-EOS adapter.
Which adapter are you using and do you have a link?
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
I'm not impressed with my FDn 200 f4.....from the first time I used it was disappointed as I did expect razor sharp images from a Canon prime.
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Rolf
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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tikkathree
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Canon FD 200 |
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tikkathree wrote:
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Those look pretty good to me. I would very happy to get results like that from my FD lenses and the FD-EOS adapter.
Which adapter are you using and do you have a link? |
Alan,
Thanks for your comments. The adapter's just a cheap as chips eeebay import from China or thereabouts. Definitely nothing special.
I find some FL and FD lenses are happy with it, as is this lens, others kinda make you want to screw your eyes up and scream. I used to fancy it was a focal length thing but I can't find a common theme.
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EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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killwilly
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: |
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killwilly wrote:
I kept my FD lenses to use on my T90, but it would have been nice to use them on my EOS if possible.
I have a very old 28mm FD, which I am not too bothered about. I might have a go at doing a conversion, if I can find some instruction.
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tikkathree
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| I'm not impressed with my FDn 200 f4.....from the first time I used it was disappointed as I did expect razor sharp images from a Canon prime. |
My comments to killwilly perhaps apply to you too. Although perhaps an experienced old film user can tell us whether this lens was ever regarded as sharp?
I'm still processing images from my first few outings and I'll try again in brighter/dryer conditions than we have locally today.
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EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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tikkathree
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:11 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
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Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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Film? Film? FILM? Are you kidding? That means sending film off to be what's the word they used in the old days? Oh yes, "developed" what a quaint idea.
What's that you say? "Do it myself"? Blimey, I barely have time to process digital images and try to nudge up my post count here what with everything else I have to do between waking and sleeping 
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I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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killwilly
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Canon FD 200 |
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killwilly wrote:
| tikkathree wrote: |
| killwilly wrote: |
Those look pretty good to me. I would very happy to get results like that from my FD lenses and the FD-EOS adapter.
Which adapter are you using and do you have a link? |
Alan,
Thanks for your comments. The adapter's just a cheap as chips eeebay import from China or thereabouts. Definitely nothing special.
I find some FL and FD lenses are happy with it, as is this lens, others kinda make you want to screw your eyes up and scream. I used to fancy it was a focal length thing but I can't find a common theme. |
My FD-EOS converter was from China and has removable optics, which I have removed for use with my 100mm f4 FD macro. The results with the macro are OK, but not perfect.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Excalibur wrote: |
| I'm not impressed with my FDn 200 f4.....from the first time I used it was disappointed as I did expect razor sharp images from a Canon prime. |
My comments to killwilly perhaps apply to you too. Although perhaps an experienced old film user can tell us whether this lens was ever regarded as sharp?
I'm still processing images from my first few outings and I'll try again in brighter/dryer conditions than we have locally today. |
Well my judgement is simple:- If a prime cannot be better than a zoom for sharpness, then either I've got a Friday afternoon lens or it was a lens made for ordinary Joe public.
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Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Rolf wrote: |
Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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Film? Film? FILM? Are you kidding? That means sending film off to be what's the word they used in the old days? Oh yes, "developed" what a quaint idea.
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It's not so bad as a large Asda will dev & scan to CD with index of thumbnails for £3 and do this usually 45-60min while you shop
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Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Rolf wrote: |
Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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Film? Film? FILM? Are you kidding? That means sending film off to be what's the word they used in the old days? Oh yes, "developed" what a quaint idea.
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It's not so bad as a large Asda will dev & scan to CD with index of thumbnails for £3 and do this usually 45-60min while you shop |
As long as they don't wreck the film for you as has happened to member Poolhall recently.
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killwilly
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killwilly wrote:
I have just replaced the lenses in my FD adapter and pic below was taken with my Tokina 28-70 FD, close focus, not too bad at this distance, but deteriorates dramatically at long range.
IMG_5779.jpg Tok by killwilly, on Flickr
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killwilly
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killwilly wrote:
This one was taken with the Zeiss lens in my previous post. Out of the two in this pic, I much prefer the Tokina than the Canon, despite the damage that can be seen on the filter ring. I must remove that dent one day. 
IMG_5794 by killwilly, on Flickr
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tikkathree
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Rolf wrote: |
Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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Film? Film? FILM? Are you kidding? That means sending film off to be what's the word they used in the old days? Oh yes, "developed" what a quaint idea.
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It's not so bad as a large Asda will dev & scan to CD with index of thumbnails for £3 and do this usually 45-60min while you shop |
Really? So I can treat myself to a MF camera and lenses? Or will Asda/Tesco/whomever not understand that type of fillum?
I use the T word as our local Asda is only a little 'un bereft of such facilities.
Really? You're not pulling my leg?
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I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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tikkathree
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
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As long as they don't wreck the film for you as has happened to member Poolhall recently. |
Ssshhh! I'm on my way to an MF set up or a "classic" bit of old fillum camera kit. Don't scare me thus please...
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I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
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As long as Asda don't wreck the film for you as has happened to member Poolhall recently. |
He probably works for rival Tesco
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Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Excalibur wrote: |
| tikkathree wrote: |
| Rolf wrote: |
Maybe you should better work with a Canon film cam like F-1 or A-1 etc.
You will lose too much IQ with FD to EOS glass adapter on a digital body.
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Film? Film? FILM? Are you kidding? That means sending film off to be what's the word they used in the old days? Oh yes, "developed" what a quaint idea.
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It's not so bad as a large Asda will dev & scan to CD with index of thumbnails for £3 and do this usually 45-60min while you shop |
Really? So I can treat myself to a MF camera and lenses? Or will Asda/Tesco/whomever not understand that type of fillum?
I use the T word as our local Asda is only a little 'un bereft of such facilities.
Really? You're not pulling my leg? |
Most of my shots posted here (and on other forums) are mainly Asda or previously Tesco....the important thing is development, so get a good supermarket then with a final touch up in Photoshop if necessary, and it's good enough for at least 6X4" print or a computer screen.
The worst film machine operator was with Morrisons dev for 99p, but the negs were developed OK but erm sludge in the chemicals or the neg was dragged across the floor:-
After rewashing and further touch up in Photoshop
Tak 35mm f3.5 MTL3
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Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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