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Willem
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 Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: question about smc takumar 28mm 3.5 |
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Willem wrote:
i'm thinking about buying this:
http://tinyurl.com/6l42w3t
the k1000 is obviously k-mount.
but i thought that the smc-takumar lenses were always m42?
can anyone tell me if this lens is k- or m42-mount?
either way i think it's a nice price for this set.
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AF lenses:
Canon 18-55 kit lens, Canon 1.8/50mm, Canon EF 85 1.8 USM, Canon EF-S 10-22
MF lenses:
SMC Takumar 1.8/55 (2x)
S-M-C Takumars 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 4/50 Macro, 4/100 Macro, 2.5/135 (v2), 4/200
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Nesster
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
AFAIK SMC Takumars are all M42. The deal probably includes a M42->K adapter. That 28/3.5 is a good lens.
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RioRico
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Yes, this must include an adapter. That is a good lens at a good price. The 28/3.5 is rather prized in the Pentax community.
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
That is an M42 S-M-C Takumar 1:3.5/28.
If the lens ring has "Super-Multi-Coated", the lens is M42. If the lens ring has "SMC Takumar", and the lens is 50mm or 55mm, the lens may be either M42 or K-mount. All other "SMC Takumar" are K-mount.
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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MacTak
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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MacTak wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
That is an M42 S-M-C Takumar 1:3.5/28.
If the lens ring has "Super-Multi-Coated", the lens is M42. If the lens ring has "SMC Takumar", and the lens is 50mm or 55mm, the lens may be either M42 or K-mount. All other "SMC Takumar" are K-mount. |
No, "SMC Takumar" is only M42 mount (barring a repair shop swapping lens rings). When Pentax shifted to the K mount, the lenses shifted to "SMC Pentax". Later, Pentax reused the Takumar name for some lower-cost K-mount lenses, which bear the designation "Takumar Bayonet".
By the way, the only other "SMC Takumar" lenses, besides the 50/1.4 and 55/1.8, 55/2 are, as I recall, the 15mm f3.5 and the 45-125mm f4. |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
| MacTak wrote: |
| visualopsins wrote: |
That is an M42 S-M-C Takumar 1:3.5/28.
If the lens ring has "Super-Multi-Coated", the lens is M42. If the lens ring has "SMC Takumar", and the lens is 50mm or 55mm, the lens may be either M42 or K-mount. All other "SMC Takumar" are K-mount. |
No, "SMC Takumar" is only M42 mount (barring a repair shop swapping lens rings). When Pentax shifted to the K mount, the lenses shifted to "SMC Pentax". Later, Pentax reused the Takumar name for some lower-cost K-mount lenses, which bear the designation "Takumar Bayonet".
By the way, the only other "SMC Takumar" lenses, besides the 50/1.4 and 55/1.8, 55/2 are, as I recall, the 15mm f3.5 and the 45-125mm f4. |
 You are totally correct, thanks very much!
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Willem
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Willem wrote:
thanx everybody for the very complete information. I've had contact with the seller and the package will be sent to me tomorrow.
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Canon EOS 500D, Canon Powershot SX10IS, 2 x Asahi Pentax spotmatic F, iPod touch
AF lenses:
Canon 18-55 kit lens, Canon 1.8/50mm, Canon EF 85 1.8 USM, Canon EF-S 10-22
MF lenses:
SMC Takumar 1.8/55 (2x)
S-M-C Takumars 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 4/50 Macro, 4/100 Macro, 2.5/135 (v2), 4/200
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RioRico
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
| MacTak wrote: |
| Later, Pentax reused the Takumar name for some lower-cost K-mount lenses, which bear the designation "Takumar Bayonet". |
If we look at the PentaxForums lens database under K-Mount non-SMC:
[ http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-Other-Pentax-Lenses.html ] (primes) and
[ http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-Other-Pentax-Zoom-Lenses.html ] (zooms)
we see:
* Takumar-A 28mm F2.8
* Takumar 28mm F2.8 Bayonet
* Takumar 135mm F2.5 Bayonet
* Takumar 135mm F2.8 Bayonet
* Takumar-A 28-80mm F3.5-4.5
* Takumar-F 28-80mm F3.5-4.5
* Takumar-A 70-200mm F4 Macro
* Takumar-F 70-200mm F4-5.6
* Takumar-F 70-210mm F4-5.6
* Takumar-A 70-210mm F4.5-5.6
* Takumar 80-200mm F4.5 Bayonet
These are sometimes referred to as Tak-A, Tak-B, and Tak-F glass. They're multi-coated, just not SMC. Same optics as their SMC kin but they get no respect. I have owned these:
* Tak-B 28/2.8
* Tak-B 135/2.5
* Tak-A 28-80/3.5-4.5 (sold)
* Tak-A 70-200/4 'macro'
I sold the Tak-A 28-80 because my very old, very used copy was just too loose to handle properly. Sometimes the tank-like Takumar build just doesn't hold up with usage.
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