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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: IR Part 2 |
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Sven wrote:
I think I have done enough IR for a while now. It might be time to drift in to the visble part of the spectrum again. I figured I had material for one more thread though.
Apart from the Nikkor 3.5/28 (which I think is a great IR lens) I have also tried to use the 2.5/105. A bit more difficult to get the focus right on the 105 but it is sharp also in IR.
This one is with the 3.5/28
Sheep in IR are still just sheep. Looks a bit cool wiht the light vegetation around them I thougt. The first one is a bit back focused. The second one is close to a 100 Crop. Both are with the 2.5/105
Cows are also just cows. Nothing dramatic happens in IR.
This one got quite noisy so it lost a bit sharpness to "Noiseware"
3.5/28 again
Abandoned farm house
_________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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mmelvis
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 1326 Location: Florida,USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
Shots 1,5,6 are the money shots, IR does such a nice job with nature scenes |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Just WOW, WOW and WOW I love them all! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Nice look to those pics.
I've always found that water comes out black though, so I was intrigued to see some detail in your shots. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
Very very nice.....! _________________ Daniele |
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
Well done!!!!
Love IR!!
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Jupiter 37A, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5,
Helios-44, Mir-1, Revuenon 50/1.4,
Carl Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8, Samyang 24/1.4, Auto Vivitar 35/2.8
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Just WOW, WOW and WOW I love them all! |
+1. A world unknown to our human eyes. _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Thanks a lot guys! Your comments are much appreciated.
I agree that landscape photography is the part where IR excels. Combine water, clouds and vegetation, and you usually end up with something pictorial.
I think it's the experimental part that's intriguing. Yoy newer really know the outcome of a shot. Also the post processing can give different character to a picture depending on how it's done.
In most of these pics I went for the blue sky concept by mixing the red and blue channel, but monochrome is perhaps a more correct way of treating the images. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
Website http://www.hundbilder.nu/
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mastazeko
Joined: 14 Mar 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Domžale, Slovenia
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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mastazeko wrote:
Very nice pictures you have there Sven. The more i see IR, the more i like it. Sadly my Nikon D7000 has one of the strongest IR blocking filters so no joy for me
I'm considering a D50 or D70 just for IR. What filter did you used on lens? _________________ Bostjan
Camera: Nikon D7000
Lenses:
Nikon: 24/2.8, Series-E 28/2.8, 50/1.4 AI, 80-200/4.5 AI
Helios:81H 50/2
Tokina:SD 70-210/4-5,6 Macro
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
Very nice!
Today I ordered cheap IR filter, I wonder what will be in NEX _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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Cistron
Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 238 Location: London/Vienna
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cistron wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
Today I ordered cheap IR filter |
I hope you didn't waste your money. Usually the cheap filters from the bay aren't anywhere near their quoted transmission values.
The above looks very much like a 720nm high-pass filter, but probably in front of the sensor, not on the lens, since it is a converted D100. Very nice - I love IR photographs. _________________ Canon 5D, Jupiter 11A 135mm f/4, Soligor (Tokina) 105mm f/2.8, Nikon 55mm f/1.2 S-Auto, Sigma MF 50mm f/2.8 Macro, Olympus Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 MC, Olympus Zuiko 28mm f/2.8 MC |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Thanks for your comments.
Yes, it's a 720 nm but it's on the lens. "IR converted" is perhaps is a bit misleading. I just took away the IR blocking filter and replaced it with a piece of glass.
I would have prefered to have a filter on the sensor but the ones I have located so far are more expensive than the camera.
I think a D70 is a good choice for IR (just as the D100) since the IR blocking is not very effective on them, so they can be used even without removing the filter. I suspect the D50 is similar in performance.
It's also quite easy to remove the filter on a D70. I have done it on both D100 and D70 and I recall the D70 being easier. There are good instructions to be found on the net.
I have also tried my D200 for IR but with limited success. Long exposure times even in bright conditions. A tripod is a must. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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Yebisu
Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 1299
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yebisu wrote:
Great series. I'll look out for a cheap used D70. IR photography looks like a lot of fun (and hard work and practice of course) |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Yebisu wrote: |
Great series. I'll look out for a cheap used D70. IR photography looks like a lot of fun (and hard work and practice of course) |
Thanks!
I do find it to be a lot of fun (maybe not so much hard work ). Gives me a chance to visit old venues previously captured in visible and capture them in a different way. The only apparent difficulty is that the viewfinder is black so the aiming can be a little off from time to time. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
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Toeteraar
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 163 Location: Dronten Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Toeteraar wrote:
Sven wrote: |
Thanks for your comments.
Yes, it's a 720 nm but it's on the lens. "IR converted" is perhaps is a bit misleading. I just took away the IR blocking filter and replaced it with a piece of glass.
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Is this replacement a very difficult or risky job to do ? So far i do IR with some old compactcamera's. Converting something like a D100 or a D70 looks perfect for some further experimenting.
Stunning good pictures by the way _________________
DSLR: EOS30D,EOS350D,K-M Dynax 5D, Sony Alfa500, Olympus E-330, Pentax K20D
LensesLoads of lenses, except that particular one
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Toeteraar wrote: |
Sven wrote: |
Thanks for your comments.
Yes, it's a 720 nm but it's on the lens. "IR converted" is perhaps is a bit misleading. I just took away the IR blocking filter and replaced it with a piece of glass.
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Is this replacement a very difficult or risky job to do ? So far i do IR with some old compactcamera's. Converting something like a D100 or a D70 looks perfect for some further experimenting.
Stunning good pictures by the way |
Thanks!
There is a certain risk involved with taking the camera apart to the extent needed for gaining access to the sensor. I wouldn't want ot do it on someone elses camera.
A workbench with good light and reasonably dust free is a good start. Precision screwdrivers of good quality is also necessary. Some screws are tightened quite hard and an inferior screwdriver can easiliy wreck the head of a screw.
I found that re-conncting the small connectors was the most irritating part. Would have needed smaller hands for that job.
Otherwise it's not especially difficult.
If you get a D100 or a D70 you can use them for IR without taking away the IR blocking filter. The exposure times will be reasonable anyway. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
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mastazeko
Joined: 14 Mar 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Domžale, Slovenia
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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mastazeko wrote:
Thx for the info Sven.
Can D70 store custom WB? What lens on the wide or ultra wide end would be good choice for IR? Hot-spots free _________________ Bostjan
Camera: Nikon D7000
Lenses:
Nikon: 24/2.8, Series-E 28/2.8, 50/1.4 AI, 80-200/4.5 AI
Helios:81H 50/2
Tokina:SD 70-210/4-5,6 Macro
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
mastazeko wrote: |
Thx for the info Sven.
Can D70 store custom WB? What lens on the wide or ultra wide end would be good choice for IR? Hot-spots free |
Not sure about the WB on D70. I don't own one at the moment.
Regarding IR performance of Nikkor lenses I would recommend Björn Röslätts lens evaluation page. He also rates the lenses for their IR performance http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_surv.html#top1
The lens I normally use is an old AI converted 3.5/28 which is great both in visible an IR.
The widest Nikkor i have is the 2.8/24 and for some reason it doesn't mount on the D100. The test shot below is with the 24 but just held in position in front of the camera. A bit soft I think, but that could be due to the way I used it.
While I was at it I also tested my 1.8/85 for IR (test shot 2). Looks promising I think.
_________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
Website http://www.hundbilder.nu/ |
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