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bazza59
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 132 Location: County Down, Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: problem matching Fujinon EBC 55/1.8 withTamron 2X P-CS |
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bazza59 wrote:
tried searching the forum but no joy, so apologies if this subject has been covered before...
I have a Fujinon EBC 55/1.8 and would like to use it with a Tamron 2X P-CS convertor.
Problem is the aperature pin sticking out of the back of the Fujinon does not meet anything solid on the convertor and therefore does not depressed - so I have only wide open available.
Is there a fool proof way of forcing the aperature pin in without the possibility of damage to the lens and/or convertor.
#1 fujinon ebc 55/1,8 and tamron 2x convertor
#2 Aperature pin which needs depressed
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SLR: Olympus E-520, OM-1, OM-10, OM-40, Canon AV-1, Canon T-70, EOS Rebel X, EOS 300V, Fujica ST801
Lenses
Zuiko: 50/1.8,
Tamron: 28/2.5 (02B), 35-70/3.5 (17A), 135/2.8 (JSG-28Au), 80-210/3.8-4 (103A), 70-210/4-5.6 (58A)
Fujinon: EBC 55/1.8
Others: Helios 44-2, Dollonds-S 135/3.5, Soligor 135/2.8, Sands Hunter 135/3.5, PrinzGalaxy 200/4.5, Danubia 135/2.8, Vivitar 300/5.6
Range/view finders: Olympus - ERC, XA, XA-3, MJU-1, MJU Zoom140 |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
The main reason I stopped buying Fujinons and other auto-only M42 lenses is just because the pin on the lens is difficult to deal with. The lens can be modified: glue the pin down, or pull the lens base and remove or block the pin. But this reduces any resale value. I have read that thin metal tape will hold the pin down, but I haven't tried that yet, and won't until I return home in a few weeks.
I currently have 3 M42 Auto TC's and have sold 7 others. (Helios, Vivitar, Sears, Spiratone, etc.) Each had a bar for engaging the auto-aperture pin, activated from below, from the camera. Ah, this gives me an idea: modify the TC, not the lens! M42 TC's are pretty cheap and common. You can get one probably for under US$10, and sacrifice it for use to stop-down those auto-only lenses. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:51 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
It is possible to buy "auto" M42 tele-converters which either have a mechanism to transmit the movement of the pin or just a "landing" to force the pin in and convert the lens to manual mode.
If you can remove the mount and extract the pin then it's possible to slide a piece of plastic tube over the pin and re-assemble. The lens is then permanently in manual mode. But of course the surgery is reversible.
Hope that helps
PS. I have just noticed from your OP that the tele-converter you have is already "auto". Is therefore the problem the M42 adapter you are using? What body? |
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bazza59
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 132 Location: County Down, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: |
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bazza59 wrote:
Rico and Martyn many thanks for the suggestions.
Some clearer images of the convertor (Tamron 2X-PCS) below
#1 camera side
#2 lens side
#3 pin depressed
The combination is being used on a Canon Rebel Xs with a simple M42 to EOS adapter that ensures the convertor pin is depressed. The problem is trying to get the convertor pin mechanism to align exactly with the lens pin. When the lens is tightly mounted on the convertor they are not aligned, for them to be aligned the lens is too loose on the convertor and any nudge will cause the pair to move out of alignment.
The easier fix for this combination would be to modify the pin on the lens so that it remains depressed but I haven't done anything like this before and would be reluctant to aatempt it in case I ruin the lens trying - the lens has a good reputation and I still have my old Fujica ST801 to use it on if the desire arises.
I was hoping that there might be -
a/ some type of magic tape (such as Rico's suggestion) or
b/ a convertor that somebody had first hand knowledge of using successfully with this lens
thanks again _________________
SLR: Olympus E-520, OM-1, OM-10, OM-40, Canon AV-1, Canon T-70, EOS Rebel X, EOS 300V, Fujica ST801
Lenses
Zuiko: 50/1.8,
Tamron: 28/2.5 (02B), 35-70/3.5 (17A), 135/2.8 (JSG-28Au), 80-210/3.8-4 (103A), 70-210/4-5.6 (58A)
Fujinon: EBC 55/1.8
Others: Helios 44-2, Dollonds-S 135/3.5, Soligor 135/2.8, Sands Hunter 135/3.5, PrinzGalaxy 200/4.5, Danubia 135/2.8, Vivitar 300/5.6
Range/view finders: Olympus - ERC, XA, XA-3, MJU-1, MJU Zoom140 |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
If the line up is close. Try making a shim to go between converter and lens so it does stop in the right place. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
The easiest way might be to get another teleconverter. Most of them have a metal plate to bear against the lens pin, rather than the cylindrical one in your converter. I suppose that was to allow for variations in the way different lenses indexed on different bodies. M42 converters can still be bought at low prices, so there's another inducement ! _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
As scsambrook suggests, I believe that your converter is the fault. It should have a plate connected to the pin with a screw. You can see the thread where the screw fits. Another tele-converter is your answer |
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bazza59
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 132 Location: County Down, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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bazza59 wrote:
thanks guys - looks like I'm in the market for another M42 convertor. _________________
SLR: Olympus E-520, OM-1, OM-10, OM-40, Canon AV-1, Canon T-70, EOS Rebel X, EOS 300V, Fujica ST801
Lenses
Zuiko: 50/1.8,
Tamron: 28/2.5 (02B), 35-70/3.5 (17A), 135/2.8 (JSG-28Au), 80-210/3.8-4 (103A), 70-210/4-5.6 (58A)
Fujinon: EBC 55/1.8
Others: Helios 44-2, Dollonds-S 135/3.5, Soligor 135/2.8, Sands Hunter 135/3.5, PrinzGalaxy 200/4.5, Danubia 135/2.8, Vivitar 300/5.6
Range/view finders: Olympus - ERC, XA, XA-3, MJU-1, MJU Zoom140 |
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