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kryss
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 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject: Rare lenses?? |
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kryss wrote:
Anyone have any info and appx.value on following? Thanks.Argus sandmar 35mm f4.5. Asanuma 90mm-230mm zoom. Kveg 2153 Alltomat. Also Shimano Pigeon 111 rangefinder,Foth Doppel Anistigmatic 8. 6X9cm. and finallyYashica FX-7 c/w Zeiss lens.Many thanks in advance.kryss |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That Asanuma zoom is common, it's a huge early zoom, massive for what it is. The Yashica FX-7 is a camera so the Zeiss lens could be anything.
Shimano, as far as I know are a Japanese company that make gears and other parts for bicycles.
Pigeon rangefinder? I have heard of the Chinese Seagull TLR, maybe Pgeon is what the Chinese called their version of the Leica copy...
You should try using google...
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I'm sorry but you will need to provide more info than that. Pictures would help for a start, but asking how much a camera with a Zeiss lens is worth, without describing it at all, is silly.
I would also suggest searching completed listings on ebay for values, where you will get an accurate representation of market value. Us lot are photographers generally, looking to see how lenses perform, not how much they are worth 
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
My price estimates are based on US ebay. What someone will pay for these outside the US is another matter.
Argus Sandmar 35 is a lens made by Enna for the US Argus company in the 1950's, in a mount for the Argus C3 rangefinder cameras. Quite common in the US. Its worth maybe $20 by itself, in good condition.
Asanuma 90-230/4.5 is a rebranded Tokina lens. Extremely common everywhere, and worth very little, depending on the lens mount. Price - $0-$20 in M42
The 1950's Pigeon camera was made by Shinano, not Shimano. The Pigeon III was not a rangefinder camera, it just had a viewfinder. Price would depend a lot on condition, but its not really rare. I would say $20-30 depending.
Foth 6x9 folders are less common, but the price again would depend a lot on the specific model and condition. There are a LOT of cheap German folders around. The usual ones would be pretty cheap, maybe $20 if that.
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kryss
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kryss wrote:
Thanks Luisalegria for info I don't think I will be buying any of them.Regards kryss. |
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RioRico
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RioRico wrote:
I'll take the Sandmar for $15!
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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| Thanks Luisalegria for info I don't think I will be buying any of them.Regards kryss. |
Jeez, you really should do your own homework on purchases...
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pat donnelly wrote:
Ian,
He was asking friends for information! What is that if not homework? We like to think we have some use and useful knowledge is a concrete demo of that.
Were you objecting?
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kryss
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: Rare lenses?? |
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kryss wrote:
Thank you Pat,I asked because there are more informed members than I on rarer items.Also members are not forced to reply,if they do I always thank them.I would always prefer experience rather than criticism.Regards Chris. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
No Pat, I wasn't taking objection at all, merely pointing out that a quick google could have given you info on all of those items.
I think it is better to do the first step of research yourself, then turn to the experts for further info that you can't easily find yourself.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone, certainly didn't mean to!
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RioRico
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| I think it is better to do the first step of research yourself, then turn to the experts for further info that you can't easily find yourself. |
1) Information can be googled.
2) Opinions can be requested.
I usually try to do (1) before going on to (2). That way, I start with something of a knowledge base; and I can better judge the opinions.
For instance, a bit of searching will reveal that the Enna Sandmar 35/4.5 is made for an Argus C3 camera and has a register of around 35mm, and may sell for US$10-30 depending on condition. That search may also uncover comments that the IQ is funky, or old-timey, or whatever. Some love it, some hate it, etc.
Then, ASK about it -- and I'll respond that while the Tele-Sandmar 100/4.5 is fairly easy to adapt to a PK mount, the Sandmar 35/4.5 is a bitch-kitty to put to a mount. I could probably adapt it if I could find a 42-44mm step ring, but those don't seem to exist. Damn. (I need a beat-up Sandmar to play with, to experiment upon, to glue down; my only copy is a collectible.)
So if someone says they had no trouble mounting their US$75 Sandmar on a dSLR, I'll either want to know HOW (and why they paid that much), or I'll judge that they are... mistaken, alas.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
| RioRico wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| I think it is better to do the first step of research yourself, then turn to the experts for further info that you can't easily find yourself. |
1) Information can be googled.
2) Opinions can be requested.
I usually try to do (1) before going on to (2). That way, I start with something of a knowledge base; and I can better judge the opinions.
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That is precisely what I was suggesting, just my way of expressing myself was poor, sorry.
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RioRico
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| That is precisely what I was suggesting, just my way of expressing myself was poor, sorry. |
Oh, nothing to be sorry about, I was just expanding and blathering.
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