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PBFACTS
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 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: PANAGOR .. KINO ??? |
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PBFACTS wrote:
Every body says that panagor was the 1st kino brand but many panagor lenses are not kino
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macro 55 (komine)
macro 90 (komine when kino was also selling/producing their 105 macro !)
35-100 3.5 ??
55-225 ?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200513492525+&clk_rvr_id=252428987497&item=200513492525&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466
80-205 (ozone) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110683245784+&clk_rvr_id=252439319924&item=110683245784&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466
100/300 5.6 (tokina)
macro converter (tokina)
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so i would more think to a company like soligor, vivitar ... purchasing lenses to the lens manufacturers at very high standards (anyway all panagor lenses are top quality - all soligor or vivitar are not top quality)
Does somenone have a written confirmation (old litterature, company documents...) that panagor is really a kino brand ??
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+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
All Panagor are not high quality, I had one that was bad, I gotget what it was now but it went in the junk pile.
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| All Panagor are not high quality, I had one that was bad, I gotget what it was now but it went in the junk pile. |
Which ??
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OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I really can't remember what it was, either a 135 or 200, as I remember it had terrible CA and wasn't very sharp at infinity or on anything more then 5m away, looked okay on closeups.
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| I really can't remember what it was, either a 135 or 200, as I remember it had terrible CA and wasn't very sharp at infinity or on anything more then 5m away, looked okay on closeups. |
Let's hope it was the 200, otherwise it violates the "no such thing as a bad 135" rule  |
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Well, I think I might be about to disprove that 'no bad 135' thing as I'm about to do a shootout of all my 135s as there are a couple I think are bad, primarily a Sigma made Pentacon Prakticar 2.8/135...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I had a terrible Paragon 135mm lens lol
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| I had a terrible Paragon 135mm lens lol |
I just tested a Paragon 200mm - awful!
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RioRico
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Are we conflating Paragon and Panagor? I have a Paragon PMC 24/2.8 (Cimko?) that's pretty damn good. I have a Panagor 1x-10x macro TC that's not bad. Any connexion?
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
No confusion, I was just responding to Martyn's comment about there being no bad 135mm lenses
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woodrim
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
PBFACTS: I have the Panagor 55mm f/3 Macro; how do you know it was made by Komine?
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8310
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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8310 wrote:
I guess because a lens looking exactly the same was also sold as Vivitar 55/2.8 with a 28... serial number which points towards Komine. |
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woodrim
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Aha, yes, that makes sense. I did read that the same lens was sold under different names and the max aperture reported differently to give the appearance of being different lenses.
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