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mo
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:42 am Post subject: Storm light...what lens would you use? |
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mo wrote:
Well as I had the Tessar 2.8/50 M42 on the camera at the time this is the lens I used.The light was superb it lasted for about 10mins,I loved the contrast of the dark background and the brilliant light over the town.....and I really wanted to capture the Autumn reds and greens and orange.
With your knowledge what lens would you have used and why?There was a huge double rainbow, how I wished I could have captured it...would a fisheye lens have captured it?
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
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uhoh7
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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panam
Joined: 03 Mar 2011 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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panam wrote:
I'm not an expert but seems to me you have to clean sensor or lens
Then I would try maybe wide angel like 18mm if that wouldn't work fish-eye definitely do the job. Witch Tessar is this? colors are great specially on last picture but again is it me or it's of the focus?
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kansalliskala
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Really strange colours, that's autumn down there? _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:54 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Yes, that is Autumn. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
All depend of what do you want to obtain. How do you imagine the rainbow in the pic? Big, small, at the center of the pic, at the border?
Your previsualization will chose the lens. IMHO
About the colors, they are nice. But here the light will do more than the lens.
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Olivier
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Nice lights and colours, Moïra.
Amongst my lenses mounted on full frame body, if possible to get the whole rainbow, I would have chosen the Pentacon 2.8/29mm or the Tamron 2.5/28mm, and the Flektogon 4/20mm.
To get the colours I would have chosen my Angenieux 35-70. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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NewStuff
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 847 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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NewStuff wrote:
Great pictures.
You do seem to have a couple of spots on the sensor though. Top-right, and diagonally further in towards the centre from there. _________________ Too many to list. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I noticed the spots as well.
Thanks Rino,I guess the main thing I wanted to show was the strong contrast of the brilliant light compared to the dark background,secondly it was the effect of the light on the colors,and thirdly it would have been the double rainbow in its brilliance "a complete rainbow"...after this light finished it got darker and it showed the reds as very deep...I sadly "stuffed" those images up as I should have used a tripod.
Thanks for showing me I need to slow down and think about it a bit more.I also see how much I am in need of a wide angle lens... sadly missing from my collection. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I like the pics.
Now go get a wide angle lens and a rocket blower! _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:10 am Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
To capture a complete double rainbow in a single shot you'll probably need an full-frame equivalent focal length of about 14mm, and 20mm for a single one. The primary rainbow is 84 degrees wide and the secondary is 102 degrees wide, so you need a lens that matches the horizontal angle of view.
The size of the rainbow also depends on how high the sun is in the sky. If the sun is high, you will only see a small part of the rainbow. If the sun is very low (at sunset/sunrise) you will see almost a half circle. In the mountains you can see even a bigger part. http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/primalt.htm
A polarizer makes rainbows more intense, by the way. |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
AhamB wrote: |
To capture a complete double rainbow in a single shot you'll probably need an full-frame equivalent focal length of about 14mm, and 20mm for a single one. The primary rainbow is 84 degrees wide and the secondary is 102 degrees wide, so you need a lens that matches the horizontal angle of view.
The size of the rainbow also depends on how high the sun is in the sky. If the sun is high, you will only see a small part of the rainbow. If the sun is very low (at sunset/sunrise) you will see almost a half circle. In the mountains you can see even a bigger part. http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/primalt.htm
A polarizer makes rainbows more intense, by the way. |
Very interesting.
I didn't know about the polarizer.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
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A polarizer makes rainbows more intense, by the way. |
Never thought of that!...thanks also for the "how to" on taking photos of rainbows...it would have been a half circle as it was late afternoon/sunset.
I have a rocket blower...have to use it more often....now for a wide angle. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
Great colors, Mo. Good compositions also, they do work. Regarding the focal my first impulse would have been using certainly something wider to get the whole rainbow, but using a short tele and isolating small details of the scene works great also. A word of warning on using polarizers with extreme wide-angles, due to the extremely large framed field the filter may not work correctly on the whole frame creating strips. The image will be more saturated where the polarization takes effect and less where it does not. The phenomenon is evident with anything wider than 24mm on 24x36.
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mo
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement Marty,My first impulse is to try to capture all of what I see.It is interesting to know that isolating can work as well for capturing a scene. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
To put things in a slight different way when things are moving fast (as in this case) it is a good policy trying to be creative and use the equipment that is readily available rather than starting to fiddle with lens caps or whatever and losing the moment. Just my two pennies.
Cheers, M. _________________ Canon FD
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
Some examples: https://picasaweb.google.com/jung.bp/Rainbows?authkey=Gv1sRgCOf_6uXki5WitwE&feat=directlink
I liked to take some more selective shots to get more detail, and the scenere below the rainbow wasn't so nice, so I didn't upload the shots of the complete double bow.
A polarizer was used here. The fringes that you see on the inside of the rainbow are called supernumaries. They indicate a uniform and relatively small drop size. I would estimate 0.6mm, according to this page: http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/supdrsz.htm
Rainbow displays can last quite long by the way, if you're lucky. I've seen one last year kept getting more and more intense. I didn't rush to get my camera though, just enjoyed it many minutes. |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
marty wrote: |
To put things in a slight different way when things are moving fast (as in this case) it is a good policy trying to be creative and use the equipment that is readily available rather than starting to fiddle with lens caps or whatever and losing the moment. Just my two pennies.
Cheers, M. |
+1 Wise advice ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
When you see a double rainbows, you should check the direction of the sun.
You may be able to see the third rainbow!! Often it is a circle. I only saw it
once in my life.
Nice double rainbow> http://talklikeaphysicist.com/2008/a-rainbow-double-and-supernumerary/
Third rainbow example> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26543329@N07/2490232734/in/photostream/
My own not a good shot by Canon S95 at 6mm (28mm equivalent for 35mm format)
So for a double rainbow you may need 20mm or wider lens. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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mo
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Koji..were you in a train or car?Looking at the foreground blur. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
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Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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koji
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Yes, was on the train. A shot was through the glass window. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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