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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject: spiratone minitel 500mm |
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rbelyell wrote:
i'm not sure if these are the best way to show off what i think is a very underrated lens, as all shots were taken on a very dull day, through sliding glass doors that obviously need to be cleaned from a very rough winter, but here goes, cause i like 'em! taken with 5d iso 800, lens only has F8:
_________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7557 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
The performance is quiet good for a mirror lens. I had consider buy this mirror lens but I give up as it is too heavy for me. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
I am not sure if the focus is exact, but I like the background. I have always liked this rustic look in pictures, so that is what I like about the pics. I don't know if that is really called bokeh but whatever it is called, it is nice. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Number 3 looks sharp, but these lenses need to be used on sunny days only! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
graham is correct, because of the f8 constant aperture sun is vital to good pix with this lens. my shutter speed was 1/100! and it really should be at least 1/250-300. thats also probably why the focus apoears off--camera shake, bird movement all effect clarity at 1/100 shutter speed! theyre really not bad considering the SS and the dirty window and theyre hand held!
calvin, this lens really is not heavy at all for a 500mm. it is actually smaller than other mirror lenses of same FL, hence the name minitel.
yes newton, i think you are correct, the background is especially smooth for a mirror lens as they have notoriously crazy bokeh. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
_________________________
'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long'
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11011 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
The performance is quiet good for a mirror lens. I had consider buy this mirror lens but I give up as it is too heavy for me. |
There is another big heavy Spiratone 500 mirror, but this one is the tiny Mini-tel 500. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7557 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
The performance is quiet good for a mirror lens. I had consider buy this mirror lens but I give up as it is too heavy for me. |
There is another big heavy Spiratone 500 mirror, but this one is the tiny Mini-tel 500. |
I see. It should be this one?
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
You have to be really good to handle these super telephotos. I am impressed by people who shoot with these and can get decent photos; there are so many more variables that affect IQ, so the challenge is my big attraction, as I experienced last night with low-light nighttime photography with a super tele, not really designed for nighttime.
You caught the feathers very well. My test for sharpness is my parrot. I call it Newton's parrot test for sharpness and color and I am patenting that. You will see this posted all over the world, but remember it is MINE! |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11011 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
The performance is quiet good for a mirror lens. I had consider buy this mirror lens but I give up as it is too heavy for me. |
There is another big heavy Spiratone 500 mirror, but this one is the tiny Mini-tel 500. |
I see. It should be this one?
Click here to see on Ebay |
Yes that is the one. Yikes US$538.20?!!! Mine cost 1/10 as much (11/2008), with original hood, filters, & caps.
Here's the Ultratel 500 Click here to see on Ebay _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
newton wrote: |
You have to be really good to handle these super telephotos. I am impressed by people who shoot with these and can get decent photos; |
here are some mirror samples with Oly OM mirror
http://forum.mflenses.com/testing-my-lenses-part-12-olympus-500mm-8-reflex-t31133,highlight,%2Btesting+%2Blenses.html _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
calvin yes that is the one i have,b ut dont be scared as that fellows price is absurd! i paid $60 for mine. just keep an eye out and you can get a deal.
newton, youre hysterical! perhaps you can loan your parrot out to members for testing new lenses! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
_________________________
'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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Toeteraar
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 163 Location: Dronten Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Toeteraar wrote:
I have such an Ultratel with the Sigma brand. It is very huge in volume(twice the volume of my Sigma 8/600 mirror) but it lacks any form of mass and it is quite a challenge to keep it stabilized.
With a shoulderstock and a stabilized sensor however it can produce good images
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DSLR: EOS30D,EOS350D,K-M Dynax 5D, Sony Alfa500, Olympus E-330, Pentax K20D
LensesLoads of lenses, except that particular one
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11011 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Toeteraar wrote: |
I have such an Ultratel with the Sigma brand. It is very huge in volume(twice the volume of my Sigma 8/600 mirror) but it lacks any form of mass and it is quite a challenge to keep it stabilized.
With a shoulderstock and a stabilized sensor however it can produce good images |
I have this Sigma lens too! I did not realize it is the same as the big Spiratone. Thank you! Now I see Spiratone in auction is same as Sigma, same case too.
Nice results! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
How are you coming along with your 500 mm? |
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